Comment on For real education reform, take a cue from the Adventists by Sean Pitman.
Am I to assume that all the same courtesies were extended to Dr. Ness and PUC? You asked permission to broadcast his presebtation? You contacted the PUC Academic Dean, President, Chair of Religion? You requested that Conference officials look into the situation? I’m glad you guys take things so carefully.
I fail to see your solution to the problem. Of course, I know, you don’t really agree with the SDA Church’s official position on origins – the literal creation week and worldwide Noachian Flood and all. So, why should you offer any substantive solution to support the Church’s clearly stated fundamental stand on origins? – beyond what Shane and I are doing?
Have we made a few missteps along the way? Steps which we would, in retrospect, have taken a bit differently? Sure. However, overall, we felt and still feel that we were and are left with no other choice after decades of nobody doing anything to support what we consider to be very important, even vital, fundamental goals and ideals of the SDA Church…
Primarily we feel that all members of the SDA Church have a fundamental right to know that our own youth are being taught in our own schools while being funded with monies given to the SDA Church to support SDA education…
All pastors and teachers should therefore be forewarned that what they teach in public forum should be open to the Church at large. No one should feel themselves immune to teach our young people in a manner that directly undermines the goals and ideals of the SDA Church on the Church’s dime… no one.
If one feels himself or herself free to teach subversive ideas in the classroom, he/she should also be willing to have his/her position presented to the Church body and a whole. To argue that what is said and done in the classroom before our own youth must stay in the classroom, never to be known by the Church body as a whole without the express permission of the professor, is nonsense.
Sean Pitman
www.DetectingDesign.com
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After the Flood
Thank you Ariel. Hope you are doing well these days. Miss seeing you down at Loma Linda. Hope you had a Great Thanksgiving!
The Flood
Thank you Colin. Just trying to save lives any way I can. Not everything that the government does or leaders do is “evil” BTW…
The Flood
Only someone who knows the future can make such decisions without being a monster…
Pacific Union College Encouraging Homosexual Marriage?
Where did I “gloss over it”?
Review of “The Naked Emperor” by Pastor Conrad Vine
I fail to see where you have convincingly supported your claim that the GC leadership contributed to the harm of anyone’s personal religious liberties? – given that the GC leadership does not and could not override personal religious liberties in this country, nor substantively change the outcome of those who lost their jobs over various vaccine mandates. That’s just not how it works here in this country. Religious liberties are personally derived. Again, they simply are not based on a corporate or church position, but rely solely upon individual convictions – regardless of what the church may or may not say or do.
Yet, you say, “Who cares if it is written into law”? You should care. Everyone should care. It’s a very important law in this country. The idea that the organized church could have changed vaccine mandates simply isn’t true – particularly given the nature of certain types of jobs dealing with the most vulnerable in society (such as health care workers for example).
Beyond this, the GC Leadership did, in fact, write in support of personal religious convictions on this topic – and there are GC lawyers who have and continue to write personal letters in support of personal religious convictions (even if these personal convictions are at odds with the position of the church on a given topic). Just because the GC leadership also supports the advances of modern medicine doesn’t mean that the GC leadership cannot support individual convictions at the same time. Both are possible. This is not an inconsistency.
