@Larry Roberts: The question was asked above, “Why were there …

Comment on Rewrite of fundamental belief 6 voted by NCC by Sean Pitman.

@Larry Roberts:

The question was asked above, “Why were there so many opposed to the resolution?” I found myself asking the same question during the Constituency meeting. The debate on “Other Agenda Item” #3 was fascinating.

I agree with your critique of Agenda Item #3. It was poorly worded and went too far – as far as a suggested intrusion into one’s personal life. This is, hopefully, the primary reason why it was voted down. It was possible, however, to reword the proposal during the meeting, but no one had enough foresight to suggest such a thing – including me. Things happened so fast that it was hard to think of such things at the time. Perhaps such a reworded proposal can be introduced next time which will be more in line with your suggestions…

Until then, the LSU situation in still on the table and still needs to be addressed in a decided manner if the school, and perhaps even the Church, is to be saved from a severe fracture…

Sean Pitman
www.DetectingDesign.com

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Rewrite of fundamental belief 6 voted by NCC
@Carl:

Note to Sean: When you respond, please point me to a short-history model that can be scientifically tested. You already know the list of events that it must explain in sequence, but you have never addressed that point. Simply saying that things can happen faster than the standard model claims is not sufficient.

This is not the proper thread for this particular discussion. See my response to your questions at the 3ABN thread:

http://www.educatetruth.com/media/educatetruth-com-promoted-on-3abn/comment-page-3/#comment-12669

Sean Pitman
www.DetectingDesign.com


Rewrite of fundamental belief 6 voted by NCC
@Carl:

Thanks, Eddie. I find it strange that we try to improve on Scripture.

This isn’t an effort to improve on the language of the Bible. It is, however, an effort to present a clear interpretation of what we think the biblical authors as a whole were trying to say about creation. Different people disagree on this. However, the SDA Church, as an organized body, has a specific belief in this regard which is considered to be a fundamental pillar of our faith…

Sean Pitman
www.DetectingDesign.com


Rewrite of fundamental belief 6 voted by NCC
@Geanna Dane:

Just to add a little balance (which you won’t find much of here):

John 14:27 “Peace I leave with you; my peace I give you.”

God’s peace is only promised to those who actually follow and seek after Him. Not everyone has such this peace. Those who deliberately reject his Truth have no real peace… or solid hope in the future.

Sean Pitman
www.DetectingDesign.com


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