Funny that the one charge no one has answered to …

Comment on Michigan Conference takes substantial action in LSU conflict by Geanna Dane.

Funny that the one charge no one has answered to is the DELIBERATE tactic used here to PUBLICLY HUMILIATE, SHAME AND DENIGRATE institutions and individuals, who are named over and over, in an effort to blatantly subvert and undermine the divinely appointed (elected) church leadership. This website is nothing less than this; a propaganda campaign intended to SMEAR and CAUSE HARM to others. Is this not your intent? Hello?!

Again, YOU PEOPLE ARE BLATANTLY AND ENTHUSIASTICALLY UNDERMINING THE CHURCH’S AUTHORITY AND UNITY.

Shane, you asked what alternatives there are. Obviously you went ahead with your own solution without waiting for the elected church leadership to solve the problem. In doing so you and your cohorts here have declared yourselves the de facto church leadership. We now bow down to you (and anyone else in the future who eagerly employs public deridement of others).

Enjoy your victory with smugness and righteousness. I quit. No more from me.

Geanna Dane Also Commented

Michigan Conference takes substantial action in LSU conflict
Kevin, I pray a lot. I read Ellen White. I believe in every one of our fundamental beliefs. And I’m convinced that those who call out individuals by name and seek to humiliate and shame them publicly are mean-spirited and bring much delight to Satan and his agencies. They bring disgrace upon our cause. Don’t you dare tell me I’m not a Seventh-day Adventist or a Christian.


Michigan Conference takes substantial action in LSU conflict
Thank you Rich and others for making your position explicitly clear. You have eloquently argued for division and fractionation within the church at the expense of unity. And you have artfully used the Bible, Ellen White, and your interpretation of FB #14 as supportive of dividing the church. Well done!

Or…oh no…do I hear double-speak acoming?


Michigan Conference takes substantial action in LSU conflict
In a most grand fashion, Sean Pitman dulty noted: “Do not be bound together with unbelievers; for what partnership have righteousness and lawlessness, or what fellowship has light with darkness? – 2 Corinthians 6:14”

That is why the Church’s hospitals must no longer accept Medicare and other government payouts. The universities must no longer accept federal student aid, federal or state grant money in any form, or even money from pharmaceutical and other private companies to conduct life-saving biomedical research. ADRA must dicontinue partnering with Red Cross and all other non-SDA relief agencies. Shane Hilde should resign his position as a schoolteacher at a public school. Sean Pitman must resign from his position so that he is no longer working in a Catholic hospital (for God’s sake). Bob Ryan should immediately discontinue his voluminous and frequent postings tot he Baptist Board. Not one of these organizations promotes the SDA view of God or His use of Creative Power.

(Of course one can defend essentially any position through selective quoteing of the Bible or E. G. White. If anything, the Bible passage applies more so to these other unholy affiliations than to the Adventist church’s relationship with its own colleges and universities.)

Rather than letting the church take care of its own business you people are placing yourselves above the church. You have shown extreme contempt and disrespect for church leadership. Rather than bash it and undermine it, you guys need to submit to the authority of the Church as God has established it- through its elected leadership. YOU ARE AS GUILTY AS ANYONE ELSE FOR UNDERMINING THE CHURCH’S AUTHORITY AND UNITY…AND YOU KNOW IT.


Recent Comments by Geanna Dane

Ravi Zacharias: Should Church Members be Held to a Higher Standard?
Professor Kent, thank you for defending me, but its not really necessary. You have been very kind to me and I have greatly appreciated the way you and your wife so generously share your faith. You have given me added confidence in the Bible and I have a better understanding of how to trust God’s word ahead of science. Thanks to your encouragement I now enjoy attending church more than ever. I have also learned that my personal experience with God is much stronger when I avoid contentious and negative websites like this one. After reading a few posts here I can’t bear the thought of reading more. Makes my stomach turn.

Your friend,
Geanna


Ravi Zacharias: Should Church Members be Held to a Higher Standard?
Wow, a friend gave me a phone call and sure enough, my name has come up here again.

Ken, please understand that you are seeing some of the worst of Adventism at this website. I don’t understand the mean-spirited and snarkey posts that are so common here even from clergy like Pastor Constantinescu. I can forgive their treatment of me and others as I attribute their comments to the impersonal nature of the internet. I strongly suspect that if I were casually chatting with them in the foyer after church they would be very kind and gracious, much like most other church members that I sit down with in the pews each week. I prefer to assume these men are sincere upstanding Christians and so I don’t wish to respond in kind to their remarks.

I actually have family in Michigan and fully intend to sit in on a service by Pastor Constantinescu one day. I will make a point to visit with him personally after the service and he will not know who I am (unless I decide to publicy post my impression afterwards- which I think would be uncharitable of me). He will answer to God how he has treated me and others here, and how he treats people in person. I don’t care to defend myself further. Believe whatever you wish to believe, Ken, but know that Jesus loved his enemies and we should be willing to do the same.


Video show LSU undermining church doctrine
I don’t think there is anything any of you truly wish to hear from me. It doesn’t matter how nice or agreeable I am, everything gets interpreted from an extreme point of view that I am seldom able to anticipate. If I have misplaced anything, it has been my time spent here. I agree on many issues about the message, but I don’t share the personal vendetta and punitive approach that others articulate here.

I wrote a very nice, very sincere reply to Sean, thanking him for the many positive things he does for the church. There was no anger or sarcasm in the message. I don’t know why it has not been approved for posting yet, but he is welcome to treat and interpret the message as he wishes. I’ve made my peace and I am finished for good.

Good-bye


Video show LSU undermining church doctrine
Sean,

Thank you for your concerns about the education of Adventist young people and for trying to find solutions to save them from losing their faith. We need them and they need us.

Thank you for attempting to share with Adventists your understanding of the overwhelming evidence that supports our belief in God, the Bible, Genesis, 6 days, 6,000 years, the spirit of prophecy, the nonexistance of the flying spaghetti monster, and the like. It’s refreshing to know that faith is not enough.

Thank you for bringing the importance of “transparency” and “on the church’s dime” to our attention. Your concepts are like manna to the faithful.

Thank you for pointing out individuals and institutions by name, and making clear to us how they continue to undermine the fundamental values and beliefs of our church and how our administrators have utterly failed to correct them. They must surely be a part of the much-anticipated omega apostasy.

Thank you for taking so much time to correct those of us who disagree with you. Perhaps there is hope for us after all.

Thank you for adhering so vigorously to what you believe to be God’s will for your life. We admire your fidelity to your stated positions and family and spiritual values.

Thank you for defending the faith of those who do not understand or agree with your views but still believe in many of the same spiritual truths that you do. We can only hope that they too can find their way to the kingdom of God.

Thank you for being so patient and respectful toward those who hold to different views than you do. Your example will perhaps inspire these individuals in ways that only God can understand.

May God bless you abundantly.


Video show LSU undermining church doctrine

So, no big deal right? Since most are not affected nothing needs to be done for those that are?

I didn’t say either, Sean. I respectfully pointed out that it was unnecessarily cruel, in my humble opinion, to shut down a university (as some have argued), ship it to Europe (as one individual suggested), or tell parents to send their children elsewhere when so many students have no exposure to the lies and theft that you have diligently brought to our attention and receive blessings from an Adventist college that are very difficult to get from a secular college.

Why is it that I can’t say even one acceptable thing here? No one should object to anything I’ve written in the past few posts above this one. Can’t you simply say, “Thank you Geanna for sharing your experiences and views. You raise some valid points.”