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Comment on LSU responds to Michigan Conference by Sean Pitman.

As a representative of this website, I must inform all who wish to post here that posts that attack the moral character or motives of LSU leadership or professors or the leadership of the SDA Church will be blocked. I know some people feel strongly that the issues in play here are due to the evil or sinful character of those responsible for promoting the truth of evolutionary theories in our SDA Schools, but this is not the purpose of EducateTruth and we will not have such attacks presented here.

Comments need to be kept civil and on topic and should not become personal in this particular manner. It is hard enough to suggest that one of our own is out of line with what the SDA Church considers to be fundamental “present truth” without adding to this the charge of moral error and deliberate sin – for which only God is the truly righteous judge. Therefore, such comments will be edited or blocked entirely…

Sean Pitman
www.DetectingDesign.com

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LSU responds to Michigan Conference
Another Distressed Student wrote (on the Spectrum Blog):

“I have heard Creation preached often! So many of us so-called ‘products’ of LSU are creationists! And many of us have studied in the sciences at LSU.”

http://www.spectrummagazine.org/blog/2010/06/03/la_sierra_mother_writes_review#comment-54704

Indeed, general creationism is preached at LSU. But when was the last time you ever heard literal 6-day creationism preached or actively promoted at LSU? – in either the religion or science departments? I bet is has been a fairly long while…

Come on now, at the very least LSU should be open and honest about what type of creationism is being promoted at LSU – certainly not the type promoted by the organized SDA Church as a foundational pillar of the SDA faith…

Sean Pitman
www.DetectingDesign.com


LSU responds to Michigan Conference

Getting a pass for attacking just one fundamental belief…

From the Spectrum Blog:

http://www.spectrummagazine.org/blog/2010/06/03/la_sierra_mother_writes_review#comment-54582

Where in the posts on the FB page are there any testimonies about how LSU influenced students to favorably regard the fundamental beliefs of the SDA Church on the topic of a literal 6-day Creation of all life on this planet? Anyone?

Mrs. Webster’s letter, as well as the FB page defending LSU, are both missing the entire point of the current conflict with LSU. The point isn’t that LSU isn’t religious or supporting certain ideas of God and creation in general. The point is that LSU is directly attacking and undermining a very specific view of creation that the SDA Church, as an organization, holds to be a foundational pillar of the unique SDA belief system – – the literal 6-day creation week.

This particular view of a literal 6-day creation week is so fundamental to the SDA Church that it is reflected in the very name of the Church – Seventh-day Adventists.

So, should LSU get a pass when it comes to undermining and attacking this fundamental SDA doctrinal position of the Church because of all the other good things it is doing? Hmmm? I, for one, don’t think so. If a school wishes to carry the name of any organization, it should, at the very least, reflect *all* of the *fundamental* goals and ideals of that organization… not just most of them…

Sean Pitman
www.DetectingDesign.com


LSU responds to Michigan Conference
@Bill Sorensen:

Since you are censoring dialogue like the liberal forums, I won’t post here anymore. Your duplicity is the same as theirs. In fact worse. They accused me of attacking individuals as their excuse. You can’t even use that as an excuse.

You are simply wrong, and won’t admit it.

I gave you my personal E-mail to continue your efforts to enlighten me if you so choose, but it seems like you only want to present your arguments in forum…

We did not set up this forum to go around attacking people as evil. It is difficult enough to point out that another is in serious error without adding to that the accusation of a deliberate rebellion against God – something that only God himself can know with regard to such doctrinal issues. That simply isn’t the purpose of this website – to judge the hearts of people.

I may be wrong here, but if so, I am sincerely and honestly wrong. I cannot admit something that I do not honestly see.

I perceive that you yourself are honest and sincere in your beliefs. I think you are mistaken, seriously mistaken and causing damage to the cause, but I don’t think you are necessarily responsible for the damage since you seem to be honestly unaware of your errors. If you think it best to no longer post here, that’s fine. We’ll struggle along without you… somehow ; )

Sean Pitman
www.DetectingDesign.com


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