Karl, how many years ago was that? Was homosexuality actually …

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Karl, how many years ago was that? Was homosexuality actually being advocated (“open advocacy of homosexuality” in your words) or was it merely a message of tolerance instead of condemnation?  (Quote)

@Eddie: Yes, Eddie. It’s still being taught and promoted. It’s no secret.

@Karl G. Wilcox: Hey Wilcox, take your homosexual issues ELSEWHERE. I am glad you left this school. How dare you as a Christian shun a student who is homosexual. Christ associated with ALL people, and you should too. Unless you would like to reignite the Nazi party. I am disgusted by your comment.  (Quote)

@Mary Jane: Jesus welcomed all sinners. But He also told them to go and sin no more. And if they refused to stop sinning, He still loved them more than ever, even with tears in His eyes for their refusal to accept Him.

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Louie Bishop Testifies, Again, about His Experience at La Sierra University
I’m often very conflicted about what the “right” thing to do is concerning this mess. Many of us (students) have been terribly disappointed by many church leaders who’ve refused to deal with sincere questions from students looking for guidance to do God’s will. For example, how does Matthew 18 apply, and how does Titus’s counsel on public exposure apply…

Other leaders have abandoned us to the dogs–so to speak–or they’ve even been complicit in making life very difficult for those who’ve dared to stand.

My wife and I were threatened with losing our NAD sponsorship for our mission work because of a past conflict with our college, stemming from taking a stand as Louie had. It was only because someone from our mission field got involved establishing a direct line with the NAD that this was resolved.

I’m sure we made mistakes, but I wish we had clearer guidance from those more experienced than us. Instead, I often got highly evasive answers to say the least. Thank God He provided wise and truly godly counselors in our time of need.

Anyone who stands should expect to be accused of being the troublemaker and of not “handling things right.” Then let it be known what the “right” way is, for many young folks out there are praying for this.


PUC responds
Why is it wrong to teach opinions that are not Seventh Day Adventist Oriented in class topic about ideas on Creation that will challenge theologians in future once they leave PUC and other institutions where they are surrounded by people with similar beliefs of them. Shall we send out our future Pastors ignorant of what other people of the world think, having them attept to make disciplines of all nations who will quickly ignore them based on the fact they don’t understand why non-sda’s believe they do. A good argument is only as good as the information known on the counterargument. Am I wrong?


For real education reform, take a cue from the Adventists
@OTNT_Believer: I can assure you that plenty of overtures and appeals have been made to the administration at PUC over many years. Students have gone up to individual professors to express concerns, but who cares about one or two students who muster the guts to confront apostasy?

This is a whole philosophy and culture they are up against. They band together to protect their own. Students have addressed the administration and conference officials. This whole thing needs to be blown wide-open before the church wakes up to its predicament. The chair of the Religion Department is likewise a resistant figure. Those who stand for truth at PUC are seen as a danger by many in a position of power. I promise you that. Those of you who insist on putting human relationships over God’s truth will be responsible for the blood of these young students. This cowardice must stop!