isa: You refer to the teaching staff of PUC as …

Comment on PUC Professor: The Noachian Flood was just a local flood? by Lisa.

isa: You refer to the teaching staff of PUC as “the problem as a whole” and specifically site the Honors program as being “rampant” with it. I honestly find it hard to believe you are really a PUC-ite with a statement like this. If you have attended PUC for any length of time at all, you should know that the teachers are some of the most spiritually well-founded people you can ever find.

Spencer, believe it or not, I am a graduate of the program. I was deceived once as a freshman as well though. I was ready to leave the church after just one year in the program and only realized the intellectual inconsistencies in the program ideology when I earnestly searched the scriptures, history and science for myself. There are indeed professors within the program that are godly, wonderful people. But I likely have much more experience with the program than you have yet to have. Do not be deceived my friend. Question everything with a sincere heart and God will lead you to His Truth. And before you think me ignorant, remember that I once believed just like you.

Simply because they teach a concept contrary to the doctrine, it does not mean they “believe in their own intellectual ability over the Bible”.

They can teach about the concept that is contrary to the Bible whenever they want on the churches dime, but when they begin to teach that it is correct and even mock those that do not believe as they do (mocking those that believe in the Adventist doctrines), it has gone too far. I’ve witnessed it more than once. God bless you.

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PUC Professor: The Noachian Flood was just a local flood?
http://www.DetectingDesign.com

Here’s Sean website with evidence that is posted beneath his name every time her writes to anybody.


PUC Professor: The Noachian Flood was just a local flood?

Educate Truth is not supported or affiliated with 3ABN or any other organization affiliated or associated with the SDA Church or any other church. This website is the result of the effort of a few concerned individuals who believe that at the very least parents, students, and the SDA Church membership at large have a right to know what our youth are being taught in our own schools…

Thanks for the clarity Sean. I guess it was just hearsay or an assumption after seeing you and Asscherick on a 3ABN interview. However, as far as I see, many organization within the church definitely support the views of this website because they are none other than the views of the Seventh-day Adventist church expressed in the fundamental beliefs. Keep it up.


PUC Professor: The Noachian Flood was just a local flood?

Excuse me. Educate Truth does NOT represent the SDA Church. Educate Truth does NOT pay the salary of any SDA professor.

EducateTruth is supported by 3ABN I believe, and privately, I know of several church officials that back up the site. Also, I’m a lay person and I don’t directly pay the professors either, but my tithes do. So, do I have no right to complain?

And by the way, my tuition paid for PUC too.


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Panda’s Thumb: ‘SDAs are split over evolution’
@ Professor Kent, Eddie and others:

I have attended PUC and know that there are teachers who push evolution because I sat in their classrooms. I also know of a professor that was scolded by a superior for stating that evolution is not compatible with the Bible during a class devotional. I find it utterly ridiculous that people refuse to listen to students or plain evidence that is presented. While Dr. Ness seems to come off as a creationist often, he clearly showed himself to be a theistic evolutionist in this 40 minute, unedited class lecture. I even remember meeting him at college days before I attended PUC and having him tell both my mom and I that theistic evolution was a plausible explanation for how we exist. These beliefs are compatible with what I encountered in the honors program as well. I urge you to listen to the students; we are the ones that know what is going on. And by watching the video, you are able to see and hear what we are taught in classes.


Panda’s Thumb: ‘SDAs are split over evolution’
@Colin Maunder:

I would not be an sda {or even a Christian} if I believed the evidence was not in agreement with the Bible. As I have followed these discussions on this site I have been amazed at Sean’s calmness,and ability to answer the unrelenting tirades against him. I learn so much from educatetruth. Thank you guys

Yeah, that’s how I felt when I took a class from a guy named Roberto Biaggi in the SDA university in Argentina! He’s a geologist and studied at WWC and LLU and he’s an incredible creationist scientist! I was blown away by how much evidence truly does exist and I was left totally confused when I came back to PUC to find science professors who seemed totally ignorant to the things he knew–astonishing.


PUC responds
“As men see that they cannot maintain their position by the Scriptures, many determine to maintain it at all hazards, and with a malicious spirit they assail the character and motives of those who stand in defense of unpopular truth. It is the same policy which has been pursued in all ages.” Great Controversy pg. 458


PUC responds

Our beloved Church & all leadership especially need our prayer support as we near the edge of the greatest storm of human history soon to be upon us….Evolution WILL be a dominant catalyst to initiate this greatest storm! Creation and Creation’s “Memorial Day” WILL be the dominant theme / test of choice during this greatest storm!

This is a solid point. It is becoming very obvious that many are no longer considering the testimonies. Within our church, members are fulfilling the end day prophecies.

“For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but wanting to have their ears tickled, they will accumulate for themselves teachers in accordance to their own desires.” 2 Tim. 4:3

Note: the text says: “sound doctrine.”


PUC responds

Something I think that everyone seems to be missing on this topic is that we as students are not children, and are not so impressionable that if we’re taught something different, it’s going to affect us so adversely. We’re adults, and are quite past the age of responsibility.

@Samantha Owens: I was recently a student too, and you need to understand that we do not exhibit the ability to discern the truth always. The PhDs are influential, no doubt about it, and there were freshmen in the room–young kinds–that don’t critically assess what the professors say. All of these comments by students prove they aren’t assessing this situation as well. Very few are even looking at the video. Their post-modern minds are just making it a personal issue.