@George: Thanks, pardner, for that affirmation of Kimeanism, …

Comment on Believing the Disproven – An Adventure in Science by wesley kime.

@George: Thanks, pardner, for that affirmation of Kimeanism, and approval of the Kimean War even the futile charge of the right brigade. But you’re not seeing Sean’s contribution to the deployment of both faith and evidence, both, despite the reams of text he has posted here in which that concept is firmly embedded. The man is as appreciative of this particular diversity — faith plus evidence — as I, yea he is the champion I salute. For as a physician he sees how faith and evidence work together as the sympathetic and parasympathetic systems do, the sympathetic surging to respond to emergency stress while the parasympathetic withdraws lest it get in the way, while when dinner is served, the parasympathetic takes over. That’s the beauty of the system. Perhaps MDs, chief of whom is Dr. Pitman, understand that better than exponents of Alternative Medicine, who seem to want only hyped up one-shot cure-all elixirs, or tunnel-vision theologians or single-issue politicians.

Sean, our respected webmaster, is under all-out attack and extreme stress here by theistic evolutionists, postmodernists, and variously shaded cultural Adventists and/or agnostics, and responds accordingly, not only with spurts of adrenalin (the boluses of which are probably better titrated and less overpowering than mine would be) but also with appropriately adjustments of content, emphasis, and force. Thus, since the challenge here has been a relentless onslaught, wave upon wave of onslaught, against his use of evidence, aided by deployment of a certain novel, highly nuanced and nirvanaic mutant of faith as a weapon of mass destruction, General Pitman has, appropriately, responded specifically to that particular tactic. Very much as St. Paul (no offense prof. Paul), when confronted by works-worshiping antagonists, pushed faith. On other occasions, notably in Romans 1, he was free to take on violators of the law, and did, with a vengeance (in the case of homosexuality) which still rattles violators two thousand years later.

On this particular battlefield Sir Pitman must wear a hazmat, making him look unhuman; at home, on his facebook, he wears shorts and sneakers. As I see him, he’s a well outfitted soldier, wearing the helmet of faith plus the breastplate of evidence, and spurs, and a flaming sword. Carry on, Sean!

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@George: What is the accepted atheist interjection? You’re asking a blinkered old SDA? It is: OMG! Or OMG!!!!!!!! Or OMG :-} On twitter, #OMG.


Believing the Disproven – An Adventure in Science
@George:

So, do you honestly know your biblical god exists, or do you simply take the gestalt moment you felt under the klieg lights in the carnival tent at age 10 and circumscribe all your inquires therein? Take a good, hard look in the mirror Dr. Kime rather than just disparage those that have honest doubts about how religious belief comes about?

Honestly, Over the past half century since it’s become popular among Adventists too, and over the years on this blog, I’ve heard a lot of agnostics but never heard it put more crisply and nicely, with more postmodern whimsy (“uncertainties are my nuggets” or words to that effect), probably never more civilly, despite the part about “disparage.” Here we are, home, home on the range where seldom is heard a disparaging word. So you can’t be serious, can you? But seriously, it’s a privilege to be the one to whom is sung such a hymn to uncertainty, at whom such a gem, may I say nugget, is slung.

Now, putting down the mirror you handed me, smiling at your gift and at what I saw in it under the klieg lights (mainly jowls and sagging gestalt), may I submit that if there can be such things as “honest doubts,” exquisitely indubitably standardized and syllabized as they are, are there not also “honest certainties,” certainly of the Bible? You’ve got those, I’ve got these, and that’s that, undoubtedly, honestly, cordially. Eternally?
Yea-hee, pard! Lasso yourself a good undisparaged New Year, out here on the discouraging range!


Believing the Disproven – An Adventure in Science
@george:
Anent your comment unwittingly rhymed, I have a loose quatrain divined, to wit:
“Wit of Wes /No less,/ But an agnostic pest/ Doing my best/ I must remain.” It
Has more or less impelled me to board your rhyming train, to get:

Gentle ole George, grizzled George, he was a High Plains Drifter.
At home home on the discouraging range and purple prairie,
Hard panning for token gold among the tumbleweeds, suffering many a blister,
He merrily unearthed uncertainties many and airy, but nuggets nary.


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