For anyone wanting to see how “open” liberals are, please …

Comment on Wisbey talks about LSU and what he wants you to know by Ron Stone M.D.

For anyone wanting to see how “open” liberals are, please go to Adventist Spectrum, under the article, “Unity in Diversity” and see how Pastor Kevin Paulsen is being criticized, vilified, and crucified by the liberal “pundits” on that website.

Why? Well, he simply supports the GYC! Yeh, he supports an organization that encourages our young people to follow God’s Word. An organization that has the support of many of our denominational leaders.

Thank you Pastor Paulsen for having the courage to take [a stand].

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Wisbey talks about LSU and what he wants you to know

A somewhat tangential question: does anyone here want a GC President who has the power to fire any Church employee at his or her personal whim?  

Nice attempt at a straw-man argument, Prof. Who stated they even believe Wilson has or would have that power? Looks like you just don’t like what Wilson actually said!


Wisbey talks about LSU and what he wants you to know
Carol, As anyone can verify, the liberals in our church, represented well by AT and Spectrum constantly criticizing, vilifying, and condemning virtually any promotion of actual biblical belief.

Read it for yourself. Criticism of our mainline church members, leaders, structure, and organization. In favor of what? Humanistic philosophy!

Dump the “ancient” ideas if favor of their more modern, sophisticated, and “progressive” ideas.


Wisbey talks about LSU and what he wants you to know
C. Dobbin, Your points are well spoken. However, liberals do not believe you have to actually “believe” the bible, at least as far as creation goes, since it is simply an “allegory” and not really true.

It seems that Jesus as well as all bible writers who mention creation actually believed it happened just as the bible says. Was Jesus “fooled” by the ancient biblical writers? Or was He just humoring us because we’re so dumb?

Also liberals say one doesn’t have to believe in biblical creation in order to believe the Sabbath. Who cares that the “days” were actually millions of years. God did rest at the end, and that’s all that counts.

And what about all this talk about Jesus having to die for us? Hey, millions of “humanoids” died on their way to becoming “human.” This guy named “Adam” was also “allegorical.” He just represented all humans and human-like creatures.

I say again–Is Jesus a liar? Was he fooled by the Old Testament writers? Was he just fooling around with us?


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Shane Hilde: Think big fish: LSU or the Seventh-day Adventist Church.Graham might not have followed procedure with these men, but I don’t know what the procedure is. I’ve read what the process is in the faculty handbook, but I don’t know if that applies to administrative positions which are at will employees. If it does apply to them, then it appears the process was not followed.

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