@Hubert F. Sturges: Those who have the capability to understand, …

Comment on What does it take to be a true Seventh-day Adventist? by Sean Pitman.

@Hubert F. Sturges:

Those who have the capability to understand, and have the opportunity to know the doctrines are in a much different position. I believe that a person is expected to understand and believe the doctrines of Christ to the full extent of his capability.

I certainly agree with this statement. However, only God can know the state of a person’s heart or what they have or are truly capable of comprehending or understanding about the truths presented in the Bible (or even the Divine origin and authority of the Bible). I believe that there are many honestly confused people outside of Adventism, outside of Christianity, and even outside of an understanding of God’s existence.

Such can be saved given that they are honestly living up to all of the light that they have been given to consciously appreciate and understand.

Salvation really isn’t so much about correct knowledge, but about a love of what little truth one has been given to know. After all, the devils know the Truth, and tremble, but they do not love the Truth.

This is why it has not been given to us to judge the true moral state or heart of a person. Such judgement is left up to God.

Sean Pitman
www.DetectingDesign.com

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