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Comment on The Reptile King by Charles.


It appears this discussion has evolved: It is now clearly NOT a discussion as to whether or not evolutionary THEORY has invaded the SDA church. The Missionaries of the religion of evolution have clearly invaded the Adventist church and now unapologetically denounce the “foolish” ideas of literal Biblical creationism in favor of notions of evolution, ect.

Who has a greater “faith” – to believe what they believe? The creationist or the evolutionist?

How have we come to this point?

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The Reptile King
From Ellen White:
(Was she inspired? A lesser light pointing to the greater light?)

God endowed man with so great vital force that he has withstood the accumulation of disease brought upon the race in consequence of perverted habits, and has continued for six thousand years. This fact of itself is enough to evidence to us the strength and electrical energy that God gave to man at his creation. . . . If Adam, at his creation, had not been endowed with twenty times as much vital force as men now have, the race, with their present habits of living in violation of natural law, would have become extinct. . . . {CC 21.3}

God did not create the race in its present feeble condition. This state of things is not the work of Providence, but the work of man; it has been brought about by wrong habits and abuses, by violating the laws that God has made to govern man’s existence. {CC 21.4}

Never has the world’s need for teaching and healing been greater than it is today. The world is full of those who need to be ministered unto–the weak, the helpless, the ignorant, the degraded. The continual transgression of man for nearly six thousand years has brought sickness, pain, and death as its fruit. Multitudes are perishing for lack of knowledge. {CT 467.2}

The Reptile King
Clearly the situation at LSU is worse than was first thought.

The Reptile King
@Phillip Brantley:

“Charles, I believe the best interpretation of the days of creation is that they are literal 24-hour days that follow each other in a consecutive and contiguous manner to form one literal week.”

Do I understand correctly what it sounds like you are saying? Let me ask the question in a way that is clear to me:

Do you believe that this world was miraculously created in six consecutive literal 24-hour days less than 10,000 years ago?

And an addendum to the question:

Do you believe that the earth was created in perfection and that today it is marred by less than 10,000 years of sin (or rebellion) against God. AND, do you believe that these few thousand years of rebellion against God is a continuum of decline From that event of creation?

Sorry – I guess I need another question as well: Do you believe that the truth of these matters is absolute and not relative to the discipines from which they are studied?

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No matter how the FBs are worded, there will be contention about it.

Anyone who has fully embraced this message realizes that the days to Jesus’ coming are few. Thus it behooves us to be about the work of proclaiming the unique ADVENTIST message to a world that is facing impending doom.

May I suggest the sermons of Jeremiah Davis. (can be found on Youtube)

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@gene fortner: I don’t think anyone really knows what powers were being exercised on 9/11. Clearly the airliners were involved.

It was an event that changed the world in ways that top-down powers would yearn for.

No point in speculation… I think Veith probably was mistaken to do that deep dive and it seems that he has quietly backed away from it.

The thing we must focus on is to “Turn your eyes upon Jesus….” Clearly, we are in “the last days”.

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@David Read: I find Veith’s “theorizing” regarding “conspiracies” to be spot on and on topic.

There is a great “conspiracy” – otherwise known as “The Great Controversy”. It is the ultimate reality of our rebellious little world today. AND it is the foundation of all of these other problems we deal with.


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Evidence that God is in control. LSU could become a beacon of light shining on the truth of our world an how we came to be here. That is as it should be.

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I believe we are involved in a Mount Carmel experience. As this world is hurling toward the great climactic “END”, we will see more and greater attacks against the truth by the great deceiver. The prophets of Baal will become bolder and more feverish. (Remember that the prophets of Baal on Mt Carmel were much from within the nation of Israel.)

What a day of reckoning it will be when “at such a time as we think not” that great cloud approaches this world. The signs today are loud and bold. Jesus is coming. Spread the word.