Comment on The Adventist Accrediting Association to Approve LSU’s Accreditation by Sean Pitman.
Those examples don’t look like math you have worked out for yourself. Are you relying on other experts for your evidence? I thought you said I shouldn’t do that! Once again you seem to be applying a double standard when it comes to proving up your case.
Please do reference the experts regarding any actual scientific argument that is relevant to my question regarding the creative potential of RM/NS beyond very low levels of functional complexity! – beyond just-so story telling. I’ve repeatedly asked you for any published paper, from the “experts” or anyone else for that matter, that details the statistical basis, the odds, for random mutations and function-based selection (i.e., natural selection) working beyond very low levels of functional complexity.
The problem, you see, is that there is no such paper in scientific literature. There is no observation of evolution in action beyond very low levels of functional complexity and there is no paper in literature that presents a statistical model for the evolutionary mechanism of RM/NS producing anything beyond very low levels of functional complexity. Such papers simply do not exist. That is why you need to sit down and do the math for yourself. The Wilf and Ewing paper you did reference for me doesn’t even discuss the creative potential of a function-based selection mechanism. It doesn’t deal with how natural selection works at all.
That is why the popular claims for the creative potential of RM/NS are just-so story telling – not science. Because, they aren’t based on direct observation or statistical probability analysis for a function-based selection mechanism working at various levels of functional complexity. If you can come up with something along these lines, you’ll be the first.
Sean Pitman
www.DetectingDesign.com
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This is the same language used by the Bible. Whatever “wiggle room” the Bible leaves open is still open when one uses this language. The Bible is not clear that the “creation of the heavens and the earth” means that the material of the Earth itself was created during creation week. Quite the opposite is true. The Bible seems to suggest that something was here prior to creation week. Or, at the very least, leaves this question open.
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Oh please. You do realize that there are difference kinds of “heavens” in Hebrew understanding? This is not a statement arguing that God made the entire universe…
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The question is if you or anyone else has even tried to explain how the evolutionary mechanism (RM/NS) can tenably work beyond very very low levels of functional complexity. The answer to that question is no. This means that this mechanism is not backed up by what anyone would call real science. It’s just-so story telling. That’s it. There is nothing in scientific literature detailing the statistical odds of RM/NS working at various levels of functional complexity. And, there is no demonstration beyond systems that require a few hundred averagely specified residues.
What is interesting is that no one who controls the mainstream journals will publish any observations as to why a real scientific basis for the Darwinian mechanism is lacking. The basic information is there. Contrary to Pauluc’s claims, a precise definition of “levels of functional complexity” has been published, along with what happens to the ratios of potential beneficial vs. non-benficial sequences. What no one is allowing to be published is the implications of this information.
Regardless, the implications should be clear to you. The math is overwhelmingly clear. If the ratio of beneficial vs. non-beneficial goes from 1 in 100 to 1 in 1,000,000,000,000 the fact that the average time to success will decrease quite dramatically doesn’t take a rocket scientist to figure out. Evolutionists, who have actually seriously considered this problem must recognize the implications here, but seem to be trying to brush it all under the rug because no one knows of any other viable mechanism (again, despite Pauluc’s unsupported claims to the contrary – to include his “life enzymes”).
In any case, it is possible for you to move beyond blind faith in the unsupported claims of your “experts” and consider the information that is available to all for yourself. Start at least trying to do a little math on your own and you will no doubt recognize the problem for yourself regardless of what your experts continue to claim – without any basis in empirical evidence or science.
Sean Pitman
www.DetectingDesign.com
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