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Comment on NCSE Report: Adventist Education in the Midst of a Sea of Science by Rev 14:12.

“2. If a student (think of your child) at a SDA institution is caught cheating on a homework assignment, or smoking a cigarette, or drinking alcohol, should the student’s name and sin be posted on the institution’s website so that parents and students will be better informed about what is happening at the institution? If not, why not?”

Eddie, there is a whole lot of difference between young people who are immature and still growing spiritually and emotionally, and professors who are leaders, teachers, and mentors. Like it or not, leaders are held to a little higher standard than students. Young people should want to go to our schools because they want to follow our principles. If they are rebellious and thumb their nose at our rules, then they should be dismissed. If they are accepting of correction and change their ways, that’s growth and maturing, and what we want.

Leaders and professors, who are mature, and who sign contracts and agree to support their employer are a whole different situation and should be outed for the evil that they do. In private industry employees that work against their company are fired, and even prosecuted.

Don’t tell me that Dr. Bradley and his associates in the Biology Department didn’t know what they were doing. And don’t tell me that Dr. Guy and his associates in the Religion Department don’t know what they are doing supporting gay marriage against our church’s beliefs.

The only reason this has happened is because the conservatives of our church have been asleep while the fox got into the henhouse. WE ARE AWAKE NOW. And we are not going to let our beloved church be trashed any longer.

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NCSE Report: Adventist Education in the Midst of a Sea of Science
Christina, you “signed out” but I hope you’re still reading this.

I hope that you had the opportunity to tell your neighbor Paul Harvey’s “rest of the story” to go with the Educate Truth website and this thread.

I hope you told him/her:

1. The SDA church has 28 Fundamental beliefs.
2. The SDA church has CHURCH-OWNED colleges and universities that employ professors who are CHURCH EMPLOYEES.
3. Those professors sign contracts that ask them to support their employer, THE SDA CHURCH.
4. Certain professors are teaching contrary to their employers Fundamental Beliefs.
5. That these SUBVERSIVE activities have been going on for a long time.
6. That the professors who have been responsible for this controversy have NOT convened conferences to publically declare their disagreement with church beliefs, but instead UNDERHANDEDLY targeted to the most vulnerable population of the church, our YOUNG PEOPLE.
7. ADMINISTRATORS should have done their job and dealt with this as a part of their job, but they didn’t. They instead swept it under the rug, either out of cowardice, political correctness, or because they agreed with the rebellion.

8. Only AFTER all of the previous 7, loyal church members have done the last thing they can do, bring this out in the light of day.

I believe that makes Sean and Shane heros for standing up for the truth.

NCSE Report: Adventist Education in the Midst of a Sea of Science

“…If you are an SDA employee, I suggest you resign your position since you are going against the stated policies of the church’s manual. Your behavior at this website is reprehensible. Have you no conscience?…”

Do you have the same suggestion for the professors at LSU who teach contrary to our Fundamental Beliefs and cause our young people to lose faith in God and the Bible? Are you going to ally yourself with those that destroy the faith of young people?

NCSE Report: Adventist Education in the Midst of a Sea of Science

John J.: This site claims it promotes accountability for, I assume LSU and the church and its leadership, yet to who is this site accountable too? None~nota.

It operates outside the church and the God given structure outlined in the book of Acts. It neither supports nor is accountable to that given structure. It has actually fostered opposition against said structure.

John J., you bring up an interesting point. There are plenty of great self-supporting institutions that support our church. Consider Weimar, Young Disciples, etc. Educate Truth is another example of a self-supporting group. It is composed of loyal church members who are working to support and prevent the war on our our church’s beliefs.

The paradox is that the destructive element is coming from within the church, from those that call themselves Seventh-day Adventists, but who don’t subscribe to the beliefs of the SDA Church, and want to tear down those beliefs.

Sean and Shane are Adventist patriots and will be regarded as heros to the church for their bold and decisive action.

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The Adventist Accrediting Association is Still Reviewing LSU
@Jorge: This is a fundamental problem in America today that is ruining our country. For some strange reason Progressives and Liberals cannot make the distinction between disagreement and hate. This is implied in Jorge’s post. It is a very small minded position that says if someone disagrees with me, they hate me. It is implied in Jorge’s post that because Sean is a creationist, he would not help the evolutionist.

It is entirely possible to disagree on the subject of our origins – whether we were created by God or whether we evolved – and still be a loving Christian.

The Adventist Accrediting Association is Still Reviewing LSU
@Jorge: Jorge, do you have children? If so, where will you send them to school? How about a school where they don’t believe that God created the earth and that we evolved. And not only would your children believe that we were not created by God and there is no God, they are free to marry someone from their own gender. It REALLY doesn’t matter what you believe. Only love matters, right? Ridiculous.

Jesus loved the people, but he also ran the money changers out of the temple.

The Adventist Accrediting Association is Still Reviewing LSU
@Jorge: Jorge, so here are a couple of questions for you.

Do you believe that there are rock solid Biblical beliefs that the church has studied since before 1844 that should count as our Fundamental Beliefs? If so, are people who call themselves SDA church members free to pick and choose among those beliefs (Smorgasbord Adventism) as they want? Are they free to believe and teach beliefs contrary to the stated Fundamental Beliefs? If they go against the church’s beliefs and then cause others to doubt their belief in God, can they still be a member in good standing?

Your “warm and fuzzy” love everyone and have no judgement for anyone and everyone do as they please doesn’t work in REAL life. God is not a God of disorder. The church has to run on order or it falls apart.

The real problem is unethical people who won’t leave an organization when they no longer believe in it’s beliefs. But that is par for the course in this evil world. Maranatha!

The Adventist Accrediting Association is Still Reviewing LSU

What a tough place to be as an administrator! If they cave in to political correctness and acquiesce to the Progressives and allow LSU to continue in its errant ways, they will be responsible before God for the young people who lost their faith in God and the SDA church. But if they do the right thing and really fix the problem at LSU, they will offend the Progressives and there could be a schism in the church.

But who knows what is really in an administrator’s heart or mind? Maybe they were put into office for such a time as this. We shall see.

The Adventist Accrediting Association is Still Reviewing LSU
Does anyone really believe that the church is going to kick LSU out of the church or withhold accreditation? I seriously doubt it. Do any of you know any Adventist administrator who would do what EGW did and publically tell everyone to not send their children to an errant school, or even bolder to sell the university and use the money for other more noble purposes. I know of no SDA administrator that has the spine to do that. Most, if not all administrators are too tied to political correctness and not upsetting the apple cart to do the right thing. That is the sad reality. Unfortunately, the wheat and tares seem destined to intermingle until a severe crisis happens, or Jesus comes.

I hope none of us are so naive as to believe that LSU is the problem school in the SDA system. I’m sure there are problems, to a greater or lesser degree at all of our schools. Protect your children.