@Odessa: The evidence is in student testimony and class curriculum. …

Comment on NAD President, Education Director Dialog with La Sierra Campus Community by Shane Hilde.

@Odessa: The evidence is in student testimony and class curriculum. One of the retired professors even put it in print in one of his lectures:

There is nothing “theoretical” about the evidence supporting evolution. The research about evolution is ongoing and continues to support and refine Darwin’s original ideas. No data have been found to refute the idea. It is the single unifying explanation of the living world, and nothing makes much, if any, sense outside of this unifying theory. BIO 112

We have lots of presentations from the biology department the present the evidence for evolution; however, we have yet to see anything supporting recent life on earth etc. This strong indicates that creationism is not be taught or even presented. They don’t have to be explicit. They’ve admitted to what they personally believe, and this ends up playing out in how the material is taught. If creationism isn’t even receiving notice other than “oh by the way the church believes God created things about 6,000 years ago”, then it’s safe to assume evolution is being presented as the best alternative.

You’re welcome to browse what we have on hand.

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This is the first time, that I know of, that an LSU person has leaked something. At this point I can only assume this person or persons thought it would potentially beneficial to LSU’s to leak these recordings.

If anything has changed at LSU, it’s the biology department ducking for cover and waiting for things to blow over, as Bradley so nicely put it. I’d be surprised if the way the curriculum is being taught has changed.

If LSU faculty see some wiggle room out of this, they’ll take it. You don’t have a track record of hiding what has been taught and then all of a sudden have an ah-ha moment and completely change status quo. The only reason we’re seeing anything happening at LSU is because what they have been doing has seen the light of day.


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Yes it is being addressed. For that all those who have been concerned can be thankful. It’s just unfortunate it had to get to this point.


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So only the faculty were invited? Why would an LSU faculty member leak an audio recording of this meeting to someone who then posts it on Spectrum?

Perhaps some sort of political move?

Seems strange.

The meetings were obviously not intended for the public to hear. It would be one thing if I was there and recorded the meetings, but someone from LSU, a faculty member, leaked them.


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@David Read: Board members and even former board members are not allowed to discuss what has happened in board meetings. The only thing I confirmed with Tooma was whether she had conversed with the biology faculty and she made it very clear she never had. She was only presented with the joint statement and wanted to support it. This statement was seen as a big step for the biology department because Wisbey had been keeping them silent for over two years and they were now making constructive advances to dialogue with the church. I disagree with what they said, but I think it’s great their talking now. I suspect Wisbey isn’t happy with the biology department. It wouldn’t make any sense for him to only be upset with the board members since he allegedly embraces what they are doing. Doubtful though given his reaction and double standard.