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Most SDAs regard Ellen White as a prophet. If she received an inspired message from God to publicly rebuke the college and its professors, who am I to argue with her? However, I seriously doubt anybody reading this forum considers any respondents here to have been divinely inspired to publicly criticize either institutions or individuals.I have no problem with publicly pointing out the presence of sin in an institution or among church leaders, as long as it is done honestly, respectfully and constructively, in a manner that does not intentionally inflict undue division and harm to the organized church. However, I strongly feel it is a violation of the spirit of the 6th commandment to publicly do so with individuals, including leaders, regardless of whether the sin is private or public. It’s often referred to as the “golden rule” (Matthew 7:12, Luke 6:31).

The 6th Commandment has nothing to do with honest, truthful criticism, as Shane, Sean, and others have done on this website. As far as the “Golden Rule” is concerned, if someone in the Church is doing something wrong, that person should expect someone to talk to them about it and discuss the matter.

However, if we expect those doing the wrong thing to “like” the fact that someone has spoken up, we will be disappointed, as most will simply go into a defensive mode to rationalize what they are doing, as we see at LSU. Why this is done is simple; it very often “works!”

So, we do not need any “divinely inspired” reason other than we see in God’s Word and Truth.

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LSU Board says ‘we apologize’

When NPUC decided to solve the problem at Walla Walla – significant changes were made in the staffing of the WW religion and biology departments.I don’t see anything close to that level of resolve in the Pacific Union.Hopefully I am wrong.in Christ,Bob

I don’t think you’re wrong, Bob. Nothing in this thing speaks of any signigicant changes at LSU. A few “adjustments” as Graham spoke of last year, but nothing else.


LSU Board says ‘we apologize’
This so-called “report” is nothing more than a smokecreen to avoid any action. Take simply one statement: “In order to get the most accurate and objective assessment…the group went directly to the source.”

Unfortunately, the “source” they went to was not the “objective” and easily obtained information which we are discussing on this website, but students’ perceptions about what they thought was taught.

Why didn’t the “the group” actually to THE source, which is the actual materials taught and used during the Biology classes in question, some of which has been printed on this website?! Then they could all see exactly what was taught and what was not.

This report by the Board is a total embarrassment.


LSU Board says ‘we apologize’

Ron Stone M.D. wrote:Ron, I wish you were more respectful of church leadership.

I would give more respect to our leadership when and if they start deserving respect. I still don’t see much to “respect” them for when they have almost totally smokescreened the real issues involved. Sure, they have had their “survey” and “interviews” without addressing the underlying issue(s) we have been discussing on this website for well over 1 1/2 years.

The real reason we have these problems in the first place is that the so-called leadership from Wisbey on up through Graham and the Board have avoided doing their jobs.

You may think, like some on this website, that the problem is just with a few “rogue” Bio profs. It goes much higher than this. The denial of this fact will certainly perpetuate the problems into eons of time into the future.


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Faith: Prof Kent:How do you figure that this site keeps biology profs with integrity out of LSU? Any professor that is following the Bible, supporting creation, and the SDA church has nothing to hide and nothing to fear.When you say “quality” applicants, just how do you judge their credentials?As far as I am concerned, it is far more important that these professors have a firm grasp on the teachings of creation and the teachings of the Bible than any credentials the world can offer. If that had been the criteria used as a guideline for hiring, we wouldn’t be in this mess now. And that goes for all our SDA institutions.

I agree, Faith. However, the type of leadership (Guy,Geraty,and Wisbey)LSU has had over the past two decades shows why we have evolutionists teaching “evolution as fact” at LSU and those supporting any type of creationism being intimidated, both students, and I would suspect faculty as well.

Does the LSU Board even care about this deterioration in our biblical beliefs. Well, their inaction, ineptitude, and apathy in finding any solutions tell me they don’t, at least the majority who control the Board.


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BTW, If you’re a beer or ale drinker, the best are the “darker” and more “robust” varieties, as these have more antioxidants and phytochemical.

Or, you could just eat some oatmeal, barley, or similar whole grain!


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Shane&#032Hilde: @Ron Stone M.D.: I agree. LSU has not been a shining light for our church. That’s unfortunate. That might be the case for other schools as well.

I have much more knowledge of PUC, and it has as many or more problems as LSU, although these have been, so far, ignored by most. PUC thrives on its “high ratings” from U.S. News and World Report, etc. But, it would get much lower ratings if someone knowledgeable from an SDA rating agency actually did a thorough investigation of the school.


[6/17/11 UPDATE] Two administrators, one biology professor, and one board member resign

Adventist&#032kid: @Ron Stone M.D.:Continue to believe that if you want. Not a scientific sample to say the least, but I just asked roughly 80 high school graduates from this year whether they chose which school they were going to or if their parents did. I didn’t even get ten who said their parents limited their choices or prevented them from going to their first choice.

I’ll continue to believe what I actually see and hear, not some biased opinion from you.


[6/17/11 UPDATE] Two administrators, one biology professor, and one board member resign

David&#032Bee: @Ron Stone M.D.: Tenured professors have a formal protective process before they can be terminated. Both resigned possible from their tenured positions as well.

Do you know this or just a guess? I certainly hope they’re gone from LSU completely!