Ron, Geraty may have been a leader in this rebellion, …

Comment on La Sierra students criticize core classes by D. Fender.

Ron, Geraty may have been a leader in this rebellion, but he was not alone then, and his friends are still there, and their evil has come to fruition now. There is only ONE solution if the church is going to keep LSU, that is CLEAN HOUSE. I have said before, and I say it again, the problems at LSU are not with just the biology department, there are problems with the religion department too. Our fundamental belief on creation and origins is not the only FB under attack at LSU. There seems to be a number of professors who believe in gay marriage like Geraty, and continue to push that issue. Then there are the FB’s on 1844, the Heavenly Sanctuary, etc, which I’m sure have few followers at LSU. IT IS TIME TO CLEAN HOUSE AND START OVER AT LSU, or close it altogether.

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La Sierra students criticize core classes
David, I don’t personally know what the curriculum of those core classes is, but I will guess that it is all about control and there is an agenda behind them.

In a university with many majors and departments like LSU has, department chairs and their respective professors have a fair amount of autonomy in what is taught to students in their discipline.

When Geraty and his crowd set up a system of classes that are required for all majors, it allowed a small group of liberal professors to control curriculum and infect students in all majors with their anti SDA ideas.

Someone please send in the course objectives and syllabi to these courses and let’s see if I’m right. If I’m wrong, I will say so. If I’m right, it will be just one more proof of the evil that is going on at LSU.

THE SOLUTION TO THIS PROBLEM IS WITH PEOPLE. People need to be PUBLICALLY replaced so that everyone knows what is happening. Behind the scenes SDA politics as usual is not going to fix this problem. Is there an SDA administrator who is going to be a Daniel and stand up for what is right, and do what is right, in spite of whatever fallout is causes? Administrators, your time is NOW? Will you be faithful or will you buckle to political correctness? This is your probation. You were put in power to lead, protect, and defend. The whole church is watching you. All of heaven is watching you. It’s time for action.


La Sierra students criticize core classes
Bob, Wisby may have inherited the current problems, but that does not absolve him of his part in this fiasco. He is just as culpable for letting this go on under his watch, and for allowing students to be punished for speaking out the truth. The same goes for Ricardo Graham. He is just as much at fault for failing to decisively act and solve this problem. He did what Adventist administrators frequently do, gloss it over and hope it goes away. We can’t ruffle any feathers you know. It might hurt someone’s feelings, or they give big money to the church. EVIL! Adventist politics are EVIL! it is time to do something decisive and solve LSU’s problem. The time for talk is over, it’s time for action.


La Sierra students criticize core classes
The problems at LSU are with PEOPLE, PROFESSORS. In all of the back and forth over the last year, the real solution to the problem is with PEOPLE, PROFESSORS. Does anybody think we are going to change the minds of liberal PhD’s who have already made up their minds LONG ago? The solution is with PEOPLE, PROFESSORS. We need to get rid of those that have grown AWAY from our church and replace them with those that LOVE our church’s beliefs and want to convey that love of our beliefs and lifestyle to our children. All of the rest of this posturing is doing NOTHING. if you find out that there is fox in your hen house, do you lecture the fox on the fact that our beliefs are different than his, and then leave him in charge of the hen house? Are we stupid, or are we so ingrained with Adventist politics as usual that we can’t get rid of the fox. Our children are leaving because of the damage that these PEOPLE, PROFESSORS are doing? Isn’t it time to name names, and take decisive action? We are culpable for the action that we DON’T take.


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An apology to PUC
Shane, it takes a big man to stand up publicly and own that he made an error. Especially as public as this has become. Congratulations Shane for showing us what an honorable man you are!

I call those at La Sierra (and all of our other Colleges and Universities for that matter)- all those professors who have deceived the members of the church, those who pay their salaries, to do the same. It is time for the biology and religion professors to apologize to the church publicly for teaching contrary to our church’s beliefs. You can all point your fingers at Shane, but are you big enough to stand up and do as he did.

It is preposterous to say that church members don’t have a right to know what is being taught in our schools and that we should have to register for the class to get that information. ARE YOU NUTS! We ARE the parents, the grandparents, the ones who pay to keep these schools afloat financially. We give our offerings and tithes, and pay the tuition. THE SECRET NATURE THAT YOU USE TO KEEP PEOPLE FROM KNOWING WHAT YOU ARE DOING CONVICTS YOU. If you are doing nothing wrong, then there is no reason that all of your materials cannot see the light of day and prove that you are the honorable people that you claim to be.


For real education reform, take a cue from the Adventists
@Eddie: and EMK

I hear you both very well. Don’t think that I am a spectator just sitting on the sideline, because I am not. I have been in Adventist higher education for nearly two decades.

I don’t believe this problem is fixable. The generation that gives tithes and offerings faithfully is dying off. The younger generation that is less dedicated to the church, both financially and relationally, is poised to take over.

Besides, political correctness is now the god of the nation and is quickly making in roads into the SDA church. Very few people today are ready to do what is right, because it is right, and let the chips fall where they may. Until we have people of faith who follow truth and do what is right because it is right, we will continue to flounder.


For real education reform, take a cue from the Adventists
Eddie, do you suppose that those loyal professors that are teaching solid SDA doctrine, but remaining quiet on error being taught at their schools are exempt from saying something or standing up for the truth? It must be quite troubling to want to be loyal but be worried about standing up against error for fear of losing one’s job. We sure live in troubled times.


For real education reform, take a cue from the Adventists
The Seventh-day Adventist has much to be proud of in the sick, sinful world! We have a great set of Biblical beliefs and a great philosophy of wholistic living.

I once heard a funny spin on our church. Someone said “the SDA church is a school system masquerading as a church.” Education is a life long process for all if us. Thank goodness we had the council to build and run our schools as we do.


For real education reform, take a cue from the Adventists
Johnny, there is no solution to this problem short of a divine solution. After having worked in Adventist higher education for a long time, Eddie has it right. Our schools pay peanuts and expect people to want to make a career on that kind of income. If you pair that with graduates who just want to finish so the can buy their BMW and having a horrendous amount of school loan debt, the pool of qualified people is very small to non-existent. So it is easy for church members to complain about what kind of product they are getting at our schools, but the proverbial one finger pointing at the university and professors, leaves the other fingers pointing right back at them!

Unfortunately, the progressive ultra-liberal professors at our colleges and universities have one purpose in mind, to capture the minds of our young people. It only takes one generation to make the SDA church believe that we evolved, that homosexuality is OK, that our doctrines are flawed, and that we are no different than any other Christian church. We are almost there!