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JohnB: Connecting this back to the discussion of evolution vs creation, and the topic thread (deal with LSU): I was in no way suggesting withholding tithe…For those choosing to do this (re-directing tithe), it can be a significant means to influence the various leadership entities to act responsibly and rein in rogue institutions like LSU that have chosen to ignore established beliefs.”

Michael Adjei-Poku: “my suggestion is that, we organize a boycott of the Pacific Union Conference and send our tithes elsewhere, perhaps to the Michigan Conference because they are doing a wonderful job in upholding what the SDA church stands for.”

“And the chief priests and scribes sought how they might kill him; for they feared the people.”
Luke 22:2; cf. Luke 20:14

“And he looked up, and saw the rich men casting their gifts into the treasury. And he saw also a certain poor widow casting in thither two mites. And he said, Of a truth I say unto you, that this poor widow hath cast in more than they all: For all these have of their abundance cast in unto the offerings of God: but she of her penury hath cast in all the living that she had.” Luke 21:1-4
God bless,

Rich

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Krisztina: @Carl: You are the first person to post something non-simplistic on this website.

Krisztina: Everyone has the right to respectfully speak and be respectfully hear and respectfully responded to.  

This first and last sentence of this post sadly represents the contradictory nature of Seventh-day Adventist Evolutionary logic. Many posters here welcome open discussion on this issue even 95 theses posted on the chapel of LSU to publicly debate in General Conference session as Luther was willing to do. The difference between the theses of Luther and Seventh-day Evolutionists are those of indulgences are not endorsed in the Bible but a six-day literal creation account is clearly (e.g. Genesis 1:31; Exodus 20:11; Revelation 14:7.)
God bless,

Rich


Deal with LSU

Michael: “Rich, What should church members do if the church leadership will not rein in rogue institutions like LSU?”

“There will be those among us who will always want to control the work of God, to dictate even what movements shall be made when the work goes forward under the direction of the angel who joins the third angel in the message to be given to the world. God will use ways and means by which it will be seen that he is taking the reins in his own hands.” PC 381.1

1. Pray, study and memorize Scripture, self-examine, confess and repent, obey and win souls to Christ and His Word.
2. Start a small group that does the same and pray short supporting prayers for at least 40 minutes for the Holy Spirit to bless members, churches, schools, hospitals, Conferences, Unions, Divisions, the General Conference. Ask God to please take the reins of each of our lives, the administrators, ministers, missions, members and schools into His own capable hands instead of pulling them away from our administrators into ours. I was praying in a group for this, asking God to convict, convert or remove any unwilling workers for Him in leadership when we were made aware of problems at LSU.
3. Pray especially for GC delegates and faithful in responsible positions who have temptations and burdens of which those who do not have no comprehension. It was easy to criticize my Dad about the finer points of a better way of raising a family…until I had my own 3-4 kids. It’s easy to criticize someone we think is not moving fast enough but there is more to the church than LSU. Back them up, don’t tear them down. Keep paying tithe to the conference if you’re a member of a conference.
4. Realize SDA Unions, not Conferences own schools such as LSU.
5. Educate for the truth. Sign petitions for the truth and plead with administrators in the name of Jesus.
A few suggestions.
God bless,

Rich


Deal with LSU
BobRyan: “But the point is – this is a large topic that would derail the focus if we dwell on it here.”

That is correct. Let’s find another solution for dealing with LSU besides withholding tithe.
God bless,

Rich


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Intelligent Design – Science or Religion?
Thank you Sean. Very helpful information. Praise God.
God bless,

Rich


The Reptile King
Kent debuted here at ET two years ago with proclamations that there was no evidence that the theory of evolution was taught at LSU but since has modified his evolution-free period to the last 1.5 years. He has threatened to leave time after time but never did. Nor has he stopped reminding us us he is persecuted and misunderstood.

Kent: “Bob, you’ve hardened your heart and gone mad. You wouldn’t know “truth” if it smacked you between the eyes. You’ve proven to every reader here that you are not “in Christ.” Turn off your computer, throw your modem in garbage, and save your soul before it is consumed with hatred and falsehood.”

Rich then noted that Kent shouldn’t be too upset about people not taking him as seriously as he would like because Kent came here pretending to not be an Adventist but it turned out he actually was an Adventist. The kind that doesn’t see much to worry about administration using vulgarity, drinking alcohol and evading authority albeit.

It is a little amusing that an observation that Kent tried to make readers think he wasn’t Adventist and the unacceptable tone of his ad hominem post towards Bob (not like the posts he harvested of Bob’s) is met by more ad hominem and – of all things – an accusation of ad hominem. I cannot think of many better text-book examples of projection.

However, credit where credit is due. Kent is persevering and he did let Bob keep his computer even though he made him throw away his modem. A nice scholar-to-scholar gesture or perhaps a typo yet short of the camaraderie we were waiting to see.
God bless,

Rich


The Reptile King
Kent apparently does not realize he lost some of us when he stormed in to Educate Truth two years ago ranting and waving, “If I were an Adventist, I’d be ashamed to be one of you!” The fuss Kent put up made some here ask why an outsider was so upset about the Adventists not “representing”? When the shame game didn’t work Kent stormed out, stormed in, stormed out again (and again).

Some of us wondered, why is Kent so interested? Is he for lack of a better strategy trying to corner ET in any way he can in this case by shame and blame? Is he playing whatever side he can to get his advantage? Some of us asked directly if he was after all an Adventist, to which Kent irately responded, “as to the question of whether I’m an Adventist or not … it makes no difference.”

We have been for some time more than beginning to see the truth in that statement. Therefore Kent truly should not be upset when some people don’t take seriously his apology of, “I also am a Creationist.” Trust is built and the foundation is missing.

Here is recent gem towards a “fellow creationist”:

Kent says, “Bob, you’ve hardened your heart and gone mad. You wouldn’t know “truth” if it smacked you between the eyes. You’ve proven to every reader here that you are not “in Christ.” Turn off your computer, throw your modem in garbage, and save your soul before it is consumed with hatred and falsehood.”

Hatred indeed. Those who stand for what they believe are, understandably, a mystery and great cause of perplexity to Kent usually worth many hours of his insight and forethought on his computer and modem. That last post apparently is not the fruit of taking enough time to cover one’s tracks.
God bless,

Rich


The Reptile King
Kent, I was not primarily quoting EGW as an authority. I only noted that if someone quotes one portion of EGW writings as authoritative about the supposed disvalue of the “deductions of science” being evidence for or against a point of faith, they should be free to accept other parts of her writings which make it clear that science is not opposed to God’s Word. I do agree that the conflict is not between science and faith but only with the deductions of science and the conclusions of the natural, rebellious, un-renewed heart. EGW never opposed science. She opposed as the Bible says, “science falsely so-called.”

Our colleges all have students from non-Adventist persuasions. The world is invited to and attends all our other schools. They have a right to know what we are teaching if we are bearing false witness.
God bless,

Rich


The Reptile King
Kent, you either missed or ignored the point. The point was and is, if someone would take EGW as saying “deductions of science” means there is no false science, just one true science that is totally contradictory to the Bible and we must choose to live in blind faith without it that is wholly inconsistent with the other many statements by the same author who talks about true science revealing God whereas false science doesn’t.

Your knot is easily untied. An enemy has done this.
God bless,

Rich