8-22-11 Hi Wendell, I’m fascinated by your logic! I never thought …

Comment on The Rise of Theistic Evolutionism – The Salvation of Christianity? by Lydian.

8-22-11

Hi Wendell,
I’m fascinated by your logic! I never thought of things just that way but I do think you have some very good points

Your’s too, Ron.

Lydian

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The Rise of Theistic Evolutionism – The Salvation of Christianity?
Holly’s question:

“Do we have any theistic evolutionists who can answer my question? Anyone from Spectrum? Adventist Today? La Sierra?

Dr. Taylor? Dr. Geraty? Dr. Bradley?

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Relax, Holly, and face reality. None of those you put your questions to will ever answer them because there are no rational answers and, deep down inside, they know it.

One runs into more questions than answers when one tries to get rid of God! He is just too much bigger, and much too much more powerful than any of us puny humans are. No matter which way we turn God is already THERE. In our innermost being we know this but humanity just does not want to recognize Him because that will make us accountable to Him and,face it, we just do not want to be accountable to any one.

As long as there is the slightest bit of hope The “Hound of Heaven” will pursue us relentlessly but there does come a time when hope is gone and the voice of the Holy Spirit becomes fainter and fainter until we simply can no longer hear it. This is not God’s doing–it is ours. Hopefully, none of these folks have reached this point (and we have no way of knowing so we are not to judge them. That is God’s job–not ours.) We do need to pray for them, then leave them in God’s hands and refrain from harsh judgement.

But this does NOT mean that they should be allowed to teach in our schools,our Sabbath Schools or preach in our churches!


The Rise of Theistic Evolutionism – The Salvation of Christianity?
Holly, I may be wrong but It seems to me they have already had ample time to defend their beliefs but,as far as I have seen, nobody has been willing to step up to the plate and do it. I wonder why??? (And I am NOT trying to be sarcastic!) I suspect there are a lot of very confused folks out there who are struggling to know what to believe. They need our prayers and not our condemnation.

I keep wondering why “headquarters” is so silent on these matters. I realize this is a very thorny situation for all concerned but a new school year has begun and I’m sure there are many parents out there wondering if they have sent their children to the right place. (My children are all grown, married,and have grown children of their on who are also grown and getting married–and one brand new beautiful great granddaughter so it really isn’t a problem for me right now but I really “feel” for those parents!)

But we are living in what I believe is the “beginning of the end” and things are going to get worse as time goes on. If ever a people needed God it is now!


The Rise of Theistic Evolutionism – The Salvation of Christianity?
8-22-11

Tonight is the first time I have read everything on this particular section and I think it contains more common sense than any I have come across before–and it is simple enough for even a child to understand.

It is a very good question–If it took God eons to create the world then it stands to reason that recreating it would also take Him eons. Such reasoning blows the entire Bible story away and then we have nothing to base our hope of eternal life on–and we are “of all men most miserable.”

Thank God for the Bible! Thank God for the Spirit of Prophecy! We have a solid rock of information to build or faith on–and when the “storms” come and the “rains beat down” we will be safe and secure in our “house on the Rock”–and that Rock is our God and Savior and the wonderful information He has given us!

My faith has always been strong but tonight I think it has become even stronger! Thank you all!


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A short while back a dear friend sent me an email with lots of beautiful pictures showing a garden (somehow I lost the site) in which every bush had been transformed into a bird, an animal–even a child. It was absolutely magnificent!

As I looked at one of the amazing displays I started wondering what would happen if I was actually in that garden and approached a group of people who were also enjoying the beauty it held. And if after a few moments I said something like this:

“This is so beautiful–and to think Nature did it all on her own! It is truly amazing of what she can do if people will just back off and let her do her own thing.”

What would their reaction have been? (I suspect they would have thought I was somewhat deranged and slowly backed away and left before I became violent!)

Obviously that garden had a lot of very talented hands (and minds) behind all of that beauty and I suspect they were there every day clipping away the stray twigs and leaves that started appearing here and there.)

But is my disbelief in evolution unreasonable, and show my lack of knowledge (as some scientists contend), when I question that this beautiful world just “evolved” from chaos with no intelligent mind behind it? Why can’t we see it happening today? Who turned off the switch? And why?

I’m not a scientist but if this isn’t a case of “The Emperor Has No Clothes” I don’t know what one would be. We are often overwhelmed with the many wonderful and useful things humans have come up with that makes our lives more livable but every new invention or other things ALWAYS have a creative mind behind them. Why is it so difficult to recognize that the wonderful world we live in HAD to have an intelligent mind behind it? What ever happened to common sense?

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If and when you folks decide on what, how and where to help in this very worthy project let me know and I’ll do what I can then.


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When Man’s wisdom–however intelligent it may sound, or how many “letters” there are behind someone’s name (or even a lot of “someones”) that proclaim it–if it contradicts a single plain “Thus saith the Lord” it is NOT “present truth!” however much it may appeal to the liberal minds of millions who may wish an easier way to get to heaven.

I fear we are a long way from being the “people of the Book” we once were! But, guess what!–God knew this would happen and He called the last of the seven churches “Laodicea.” Truly, we are saying, “I am rich…and have need of nothing.” (After all, folks didn’t have the brilliant scientists such as we have today when You told Moses–and even our Adventist pioneers
–You did it is six literal days and rested the seventh!)

I am NOT against true science or scientists! There definitely is a real place for it (and them) and I truly believe it is “God given.” I have a LOT of respect for true science and true scientists but when someone–anyone–goes against a plain “Thus saith the Lord” they lose me. (Not that these folks really care if a very “ignorant”, very “old lady” doesn’t believe them!) But God does and that’s enough for me!

As Bob said–“All have free will. To each his own.” I agree! (But I still tremble for those who believe ideas contrary to what God says–even if it comes from the mouth of a renowned scientist, an “Adventist” teacher or an “Adventist” preacher. (Please forgive me if I have misunderstood or misjudged anyone.)