Comment on Northern California Conference Votes to Act Independent of the General Conference by Sean Pitman.
Again, this is indeed an Arian concept – that the Father is somehow fundamentally superior to Christ in nature and/or authority and that Christ derived His own position and authority from the Father. That’s a clear form of Arianism.
The reason why the Father assembled the angels together to explain the position of Jesus is because Jesus had taken on the form of an angel (the Archangel Michael) and Lucifer had made confusing accusations regarding the true status of Jesus. The Father was simply making known a reality to the heavenly angels that they didn’t yet understand or realize – that Jesus was in fact fully God in His own right – not created or in any way subordinate or otherwise inferior in inherent power or authority. In other words, the Father was not endowing Jesus was something that Jesus didn’t already have all on His own. Jesus was Himself God and always had been – with life and authority “original, unborrowed, and underived” from anyone (EGW, DoA, p. 530). Regardless of their lack of understanding, the reality of the situation is that it was really Jesus who had made everyone standing there before God’s throne, together with the Father, and had life and power and Divine authority, in its highest sense, inherent within Himself that was “underived” from the Father.
Now, regarding your comment that Lucifer was willing to submit to the Father, that’s clearly mistaken because Lucifer directly rebelled against the Father’s clearly stated wishes and refused to submit to the Father’s will. Sure, Lucifer’s initial jealously and feud was with Jesus. However, the notion that Lucifer would readily submit to the Father and be entirely satisfied as long as he was put second in command is just nonsense. It is quite clear that he wanted it all. He wanted to be “like God” (Isaiah 14:14).
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I fail to see where you have convincingly supported your claim that the GC leadership contributed to the harm of anyone’s personal religious liberties? – given that the GC leadership does not and could not override personal religious liberties in this country, nor substantively change the outcome of those who lost their jobs over various vaccine mandates. That’s just not how it works here in this country. Religious liberties are personally derived. Again, they simply are not based on a corporate or church position, but rely solely upon individual convictions – regardless of what the church may or may not say or do.
Yet, you say, “Who cares if it is written into law”? You should care. Everyone should care. It’s a very important law in this country. The idea that the organized church could have changed vaccine mandates simply isn’t true – particularly given the nature of certain types of jobs dealing with the most vulnerable in society (such as health care workers for example).
Beyond this, the GC Leadership did, in fact, write in support of personal religious convictions on this topic – and there are GC lawyers who have and continue to write personal letters in support of personal religious convictions (even if these personal convictions are at odds with the position of the church on a given topic). Just because the GC leadership also supports the advances of modern medicine doesn’t mean that the GC leadership cannot support individual convictions at the same time. Both are possible. This is not an inconsistency.
