Professor – If anyone is “jeering” or subjecting others to “ridicule …

Comment on La Sierra University Granted Window to Show its Faithfulness to Church’s Creation Belief by Charles.

Professor –

If anyone is “jeering” or subjecting others to “ridicule and abuse” – that is wrong. I have not seen it here and it is not the way of Jesus. Certainly, most of the “ridicule and abuse” comes from those Evolutionsists who believe that true Creationists are superstitious and deluded – because the idea of an all-powerful being who can “speak” the world into existence simply does not meet the muster of scientific reason.

Having said that, it is absolutely the position of the SDA movement (from the beginning) that God created this earth in seven literal days just a few thousand years ago (6000 more or less). True, SDAs are by far in the minority in that belief. But that means nothing – the majority has often been wrong.

It seems to me that the “argument” (for lack of a better word) of creation vs evolution is not the subject of this forum. The position of evolutionist ideas within the SDA faith is – if I understand correctly.

Again, the SDA position within the debate is that of a miraculous (outside the limits of science) creation by an all-powerful God. If that is not what you believe, join the millions or billions in the world who think similarly. Why would you want to be an Adventist and pretend to believe in literal Creation if indeed you believe that we are here by some other way?

If you are truly a believer in the SDA faith, then you believe in the literal creation. This belief is at the very core of the foundation of our existence. It is the essense of the faith.

I’d like to mention one other thing: SDAs also believe in a very near return of the Creator (Jesus) to this world. (it’s what the word “Adventist” means) At that time there will be a “harvest” of the ones who have nurtured a personal relationship with Him. This event will be equally miraculous (and unscientific) to the “Creation” in that people will be “caught up to meet him in the air”. Not only that but they will be given new and perfect bodies that will live forever. We believe that after this event, the world will be devoid of any human life for 1000 years – at which time we will return to the earth and it will be re-created in perfection – as it was 6000 years ago.

If I cannot believe in a literal and miraculous creation about 6000 years ago, how can I believe in what I know about what I just said?

If you are not an SDA – have not studied the foundational beliefs of this faith – then perhaps all of that sounds a bit bizzare to you. I would urge you to really study what you claim to believe – if you are indeed a Seventh-Day Adventist. The story of Creation is not the biggest stretch if one must apply the laws of science or reason as understood by the world today.

What I say above, I say with a sense of genuine care, respect and concern. Please don’t take any of it as ridicule or abuse. It is NOT intended as such. Please know that I respect your right to have your opinion and disagree. But the reality is that if you do not believe in what Seventh-Day Adventists believe, then you are not one. I can only hope (or wish) that you are.

In Christian love

Charles

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I am missing my agnostic friend, Ken.

I hope he read the chapter. He promised.


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Happy Sabbath, again. The last day of another week – just as it has been since the week of Creation.


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I just checked the news. No earthquakes, tornados, hurricanes, tidal waves that were worth mentioning. Just a few wars and rumours of wars.

Guess it was just a quiet day – unusual this near the second coming of Jesus.


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It was an event that changed the world in ways that top-down powers would yearn for.

No point in speculation… I think Veith probably was mistaken to do that deep dive and it seems that he has quietly backed away from it.

The thing we must focus on is to “Turn your eyes upon Jesus….” Clearly, we are in “the last days”.


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@David Read: I find Veith’s “theorizing” regarding “conspiracies” to be spot on and on topic.

There is a great “conspiracy” – otherwise known as “The Great Controversy”. It is the ultimate reality of our rebellious little world today. AND it is the foundation of all of these other problems we deal with.

AND, IT WILL BE ENDING SOON!


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Evidence that God is in control. LSU could become a beacon of light shining on the truth of our world an how we came to be here. That is as it should be.


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What a day of reckoning it will be when “at such a time as we think not” that great cloud approaches this world. The signs today are loud and bold. Jesus is coming. Spread the word.