David Read: None of this top down pressure would be happening …

Comment on La Sierra University Granted Window to Show its Faithfulness to Church’s Creation Belief by Ron Stone M.D..

David Read: None of this top down pressure would be happening were it not for the fact that Ted Wilson is the General Conference President (and is on the AAA board). There really is a new sheriff in town. But is it too late?

You’re absolutely correct, Dave. Most of the “underlings” are either afraid to do anything or simply are waiting for someone “higher up” to take charge of this debacle.

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La Sierra University Granted Window to Show its Faithfulness to Church’s Creation Belief
@Charles, There are indeed many so-called “Christian” pastors who have bought a ticket on the “Evolution Express.”

However, I have never seen an actual large survey of SDA ordained pastors regarding their view(s) on this subject. Would the GC, NAD, or even the Pacific Union Conference be willing to do such an analysis, in order to see how our “shepherds” view this matter?

I have done my own “local” survey, and all the pastors say they are creationists.


La Sierra University Granted Window to Show its Faithfulness to Church’s Creation Belief

Charles: So we are all on the same page? “TE and scripture are mutually exclusive principles?”

I would say “yes.” However, many find it easy to “fool themselves” into the opposite view.


La Sierra University Granted Window to Show its Faithfulness to Church’s Creation Belief

Professor Kent: Bob Ryan won’t do it, Sean Pitman won’t do it, David Read won’t do it, Shane Hilde won’t do it, Ron Stone won’t do it, Wesley Kime won’t do it, Ken won’t do it, Dawkins won’t do it, Provine won’t do it, Meyer won’t do it, Eddie won’t do it, and Professor Kent won’t do it.Okay. But millions of Christians do marry TE and the Bible. How sad that they succeed in such an illogical venture. Let’s pray for them.

They “succeed” by self-deception–the easiest deception in the world!


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My Goal for La Sierra University

The reason the LaSierra situation has gone uncorrected so long is that most of our administrators have exactly the sort of political instincts that Dan Jackson has. They are politicians and consensus builders; they want to keep the peace and make the trains run on time. But the circumstances call for men of principle, hard men who are willing to stand for the right “though the heavens fall,” i.e., regardless who is offended and loudly complains.

Dave, I agree with you. Jackson’s trying to play on “both teams” is not going to go well for him.

Unfortunately, politics is the “SOP” of many of our SDA officials, Jackson being just one. “Political instincts” are the rule, instead of actually doing what is “right” according to what we know in God’s Word.


Bradley, Beach and Kaatz retain attorney

Shane Hilde: Think big fish: LSU or the Seventh-day Adventist Church.Graham might not have followed procedure with these men, but I don’t know what the procedure is. I’ve read what the process is in the faculty handbook, but I don’t know if that applies to administrative positions which are at will employees. If it does apply to them, then it appears the process was not followed.

Trustees book says, in 6,9,F, that the Trustes may “discontinue” virtually anyone working at the university.

Does that mean to “fire” or to “force their resignation? Seems like it does.