@David Read: Forget about the promotion of “sectarian” ideas, according …

Comment on La Sierra Univeristy Fires Dr. Lee Greer; Signs anti-Creation Bond by Sean Pitman.

@David Read:

Forget about the promotion of “sectarian” ideas, according to the government not even the presentation of empirical arguments favoring general non-sectarian theories of intelligent design behind the origin or diversity of life on this planet, or any feature of the universe for that matter, would be considered a promotion of “religion”, not “science” and would therefore be considered a violation of the terms of this bond agreement…

I’m not sure what business any president of any Adventist university has signing such a bond agreement? – an agreement that basically says that we promise not to teach our own primary goals and ideas to our own students at all places/buildings within our own schools. What then is the point of having the name Seventh-day Adventist on such a school? Talk about selling out our own young people for financial gain…

Sean Pitman
www.DetectingDesign.com

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La Sierra Univeristy Fires Dr. Lee Greer; Signs anti-Creation Bond
@Professor Kent:

All Adventist school boards, and I’m sure there are many, who have taken out state bonds with such restrictive language are not wise. They have placed another one of our schools at the mercy of the civil government to tolerate that which the bond language itself does not allow…

How long will the State continue to turn a blind eye is anyone’s guess, but it will not be forever. Eventually the State will enforce the bond-agreement language which gives the state power over all those who have accepted such bonds in perpetuity for the entire life of the bonded buildings.

Sean Pitman
www.DetectingDesign.com


La Sierra Univeristy Fires Dr. Lee Greer; Signs anti-Creation Bond
@ProfessorKent:

Only hatred and intolerance can motivate those who so enthusiastically undermine the Church’s doctrine on unity.

I don’t hate evolutionists. Many of my very good friends are evolutionist, some are agnostic, and a few are atheists. Yet, we get along great. The difference, you see, is that they don’t expect to get a paycheck from the SDA Church for promoting their neo-Darwinian views…

2 Corinthians 6:15


La Sierra Univeristy Fires Dr. Lee Greer; Signs anti-Creation Bond
@Professor Kent:

All the worse for Richardo Graham. He should never have agreed to the restrictive language of the bond agreement or bond application…

Sean Pitman
www.DetectingDesign.com


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