Holding accountable can consist of expressing concerns and speaking up, …

Comment on “Don’t go backwards to interpret Genesis as allegorical or symbolic” by Ron Stone M.D.

Holding accountable can consist of expressing concerns and speaking up, such as is being done on this website, after first spending awhile trying to work with LSU privately.Ted Wilson’s statement about members holding an institution accountable seemed to me to be referring to what this website has been doing.  

Bob, I agree with you completely. But, you see how this website and those who contribute are hammered by the liberals for not having a “christian” demeanor. While the liberals on AT and Spectrum hammer our SDA Church constantly, we can’t lift a voice FOR God’s Truth, according to them!

For over a year, this website has done its job. However, what has been actually DONE? Nothing! So, the results of holding someone “accountable” is still nothing. Will there be some accountability in the future? I have serious doubts.

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“Don’t go backwards to interpret Genesis as allegorical or symbolic”

Everyone held up their yellow voting cards for “yes” or for “no”.It was a “sea of yellow” for the yes – and about 25 cards held up for “no” on that second vote.The first vote only had one or maybe two in the “no” column and it is hard to tell the difference between two “seas of yellow” in the yes column for the two motions, so I just call it 2000 to near-nill.in Christ,Bob  

Sounds like a landslide. Bad news for the liberals. However, as they have done in the past out here in the Pacific Union Conference, they will simply ignore the vote and do as they please, as we see at LSU.

“Don’t go backwards to interpret Genesis as allegorical or symbolic”

(Quote)Ron Stone:Do you feel Ted Wilson in the end won’t push forward beyond his words; or do you feel there isn’t enough backbone in the rest of the conference to make the needed changes?I’ve had such high hopes.Spirit of Prophecy does say the last work will be carried out by the lay people and not the leaders.Perhaps because the majority of the leaders are made of jello??I was surprised the vote regarding the creation issue was 75%.WHO are the other 25% and what are they doing serving in the general conference?Rather alarming.  

I believe Wilson does plan to go further. However, I am fully aware of the deeply rooted hatred for Wilson out here by the liberals who control much of what is going on. Just check out AT and Spectrum.

The work IS being carried out by lay people, such as Shane and Sean, because our so-called leaders have dropped the ball. [edit]

Regarding the vote, was it by voice, hand raising, or do we have a “hard copy” of who voted how? Anyone know?

“Don’t go backwards to interpret Genesis as allegorical or symbolic”
Did Wilson explain how SDA members can actually hold our leaders accountable? We have many leaders out here in the Pacific Union Conference who have not been accountable and still aren’t, but what can ordinary “Joe and Jill Schmo” church members do?

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My Goal for La Sierra University

The reason the LaSierra situation has gone uncorrected so long is that most of our administrators have exactly the sort of political instincts that Dan Jackson has. They are politicians and consensus builders; they want to keep the peace and make the trains run on time. But the circumstances call for men of principle, hard men who are willing to stand for the right “though the heavens fall,” i.e., regardless who is offended and loudly complains.

Dave, I agree with you. Jackson’s trying to play on “both teams” is not going to go well for him.

Unfortunately, politics is the “SOP” of many of our SDA officials, Jackson being just one. “Political instincts” are the rule, instead of actually doing what is “right” according to what we know in God’s Word.

Bradley, Beach and Kaatz retain attorney

Shane Hilde: Think big fish: LSU or the Seventh-day Adventist Church.Graham might not have followed procedure with these men, but I don’t know what the procedure is. I’ve read what the process is in the faculty handbook, but I don’t know if that applies to administrative positions which are at will employees. If it does apply to them, then it appears the process was not followed.

Trustees book says, in 6,9,F, that the Trustes may “discontinue” virtually anyone working at the university.

Does that mean to “fire” or to “force their resignation? Seems like it does.

My Goal for La Sierra University

GMF: If what has been reported about Jackson is correct it is very troubling. Also, one can only wonder why he was selected as the NAD President.I’ve seen a thing or two which made me wonder about Jackson but this report, if true, has to be the worst. May the Good Lord help us!

Jackson was selected to replace Don Schneider, who was also very “passive” in his approach to this problem.

Besides telling Wisbey to “love Jesus” Jackson did virtually nothing.

My Goal for La Sierra University
Sean, Great summary and analysis of the current situation. Another good review of this matter is in the Jan-March 2011 Elders Journal. It also goes into the 2004 evaluation and recommendations, as you have quoted.

Bradley, Beach and Kaatz retain attorney
How about a “class action” suit against anyone and everyone who has heard the tape or has heard OF the tape?