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Charles: How could they logically expect anyone to buy into it happening by accident when it cannot even be demonstrated in a lab?

I’d say that’s an excellent question, Charles. One that perhaps the ‘educated’ might want to ponder a little more. They seem to think they are so brilliant that they know more than God. Yet, in all the years since they have begun this rebellion against their Creator, not one of them has been able to create that spark of life. And they never will. That is God’s province and His alone.

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Two Adventist Universities Promote Six-Day Creation
So happy to hear that there are still professors who are courageous enough to stand for the truth despite the ridicule of their worldly ‘peers’. I had begun to think that the whole of our SDA higher education community had been ravaged by evolution and other heresies in the science and religion depts.

I think the key to the whole mess is the hiring/firing practices of the schools. In order to correct it, I feel that all of the teaching staff and administrators of all our colleges and universities (and for that matter, the academies) should be examined for their loyalty to SDA beliefs. If they cannot support the true SDA doctrine, having them in the position to teach young minds is an opportunity for heresy to spread like wildfire in our church and they should immediately be fired.

A good example of the dangers of allowing them to remain is the psychology prof that Holly has been speaking about. The minute he announced that he didn’t agree with the Bible (and therefore SDA) stance on homosexuality, he should have been fired. I don’t care who his friends are or how much tenure he had, he had no business in an SDA classroom scoffing at SDA standards and doctrine.

But I don’t think the examinations should stop there. Unfortunately, a lot of this has been allowed to go on for so long because the GC itself has been decimated by unbelieving and world-loving ministers. Ministers, as much or more than teachers and professors, need to be tested for soundness. If they don’t agree with the church’s doctrine, they shouldn’t be leading out in any way, shape, or form. Allowing them to do so just opens the door for them to lead people astray. Again, they should be fired.

I know, somebody is going to come back with a lecture on Christian love; but sometimes, in order to stop the spread of sin, tough measures must be taken. When you think about it, how much do we really love the innocent sheep of the church when we allow the wolves to remain? Think about this, too: Jesus drove the cheats and moneychangers out of the temple. If we are to follow His example, why aren’t we doing the same?


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And you are correct, Sean, PK must consider where his influence is going–for God or against Him.


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Mr Taylor,

After reading your comment above, I must say PK isn’t the only one in that boat.I would make some comment as to how I really feel about you, but I know Sean will only delete it and you won’t benefit from my insight anyway–seeing as Sean is more concerned about other people’s feelings than you seem to be.

How you have the nerve to come to this website and call us all a bunch of morons (which is really what you are doing) is beyond me. You and your cronies are the ones drowning in error. Anyone who dares to accept man’s opinions over the Bible or SOP isn’t to be trusted to define truth for anyone.

Too straight-forward in my comment? Trust me, I have restrained myself admirably. If you only knew….


Southern Adventist University opens Origins Exhibit
Further to my comment on skeptism and our professors, I’ve got to tell you that I found Prof Kent to be extremely annoying in his comments on EGW. He seems to think that she is an embarrassment to the church when she speaks on Science.

Personally I find people who dis her to be the embarrassment to the church. I really don’t see how they dare to contradict and mock God’s prophet. By doing this they undermine a lot of our church’s beliefs to outsiders as well as church members. God will hold them accountable for that.

Furthermore, David’s unpublished manuscript plus other books I have read on archaeology have reported skeletons of the type that EGW mentions. Also found were artifacts such as huge iron bedsteads made for and buried with kings of huge stature.

Just because you haven’t done your research, PK, don’t jump to the conclusion the evidence isn’t there. It’s there, all right, and you make yourself look a little foolish for not knowing about it.


Southern Adventist University opens Origins Exhibit
David Read said:

“Ellen White’s statements about larger antediluvian life forms are well attested with regard to many different types of flora and fauna. They’re not even controversial…

Hi David,

As you know, I took advantage of your kind offer and I read your manuscript as well as I purchased 3 of your books, one for me, one for my sisters, and one for the church library. It took me a week to finish the book, and I and my sisters are very impressed with it. My one sister calls it “one incredible book”. It has answered a lot of the questions we had on the subject of evolution vs creation science, and, yes, I believe we (you and I and my sisters) are on the same page in our beliefs. We have immensely enjoyed discussing the various aspects of the subject as we read. It makes perfect sense to us.

I still have a couple of questions–new ones will probably always keep popping up–but I would say you have covered the subject admirably. Thanks so much for this book.

I agree with Elder Wilson, this is something every Adventist should read. In my opinion it should be used as required reading for science courses. It is exactly the way I would want science courses in the universities to treat the Creation/evolution debate in the classroom. And if the professors at LSU and the other SDA institutions would do this we wouldn’t be constantly losing our young people and, for that matter, our professors, to skeptisism.

Thank God someone has the courage to publish the truth and expose error.

God Bless you, David.


Southern Adventist University opens Origins Exhibit
Hi Sean and Bill,

I am wondering if the difference of opinion here is due to varying definitions of the word ‘science’. As we all know there is true science and there is worldly psuedo-science.

If Bill’s understanding of ‘science’ in this case is actually worldly psuedo-science, then he is correct in not wanting any truth to be compromised with it.

From Sean’s post, I believe he is referring to true science, which is definitely part of our beliefs on origins and is well supported by the Bible and SOP, as Sean admirably demonstrated.

Not having seen the exhibit myself, I cannot comment on whether or not they are mixing psuedo-science into it. (Perhaps a few of you posters out there can see the exhibit and report back to us.) Knowing the general philosophy of SAU, I would be surprised if they did.

Their goal is “to provide scientific evidence that substantiates the Bible’s account of creation.” Sounds good to me.
They also say: “Religion and science don’t need to be at odds.” And that is true when you are referring to true science, which I believe they are.

However, I do understand Bill’s reaction in that these days when people use the word ‘science’ without qualification it so often means evolutionary pseudoscience, that we tend to be suspicious.

I think, Bill, that in this case we don’t need to worry. I believe SAU’s heart is in the right place and I am so glad that at least one of our institutions is willing to stand up and be counted on the side of Creation, even though they will probably draw much criticism from the ‘scientific’ community as well as from the TEs in their own church.

God bless them for their fidelity to Him. And may God strengthen them to meet the onslaught that is most likely to follow, is my prayer for them.