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Clearly, there are apparently random mindless processes of nature that can explain many types of phenomena.
“I have seen something else under the sun:
The race is not to the swift
or the battle to the strong,
nor does food come to the wise
or wealth to the brilliant
or favor to the learned;
but time and chance happen to them all.”
— Ecclesiastes 9:11 (NIV)
In other words, the teacher is saying that we are all victims of circumstance. I understand him and agree. How does that contradict the most inescapable deduction of philosophy? Nature is not self-acting; every particle of the universe moves as God dictates; and God’s sovereignty includes God’s passive consent to the purposes and actions of all created living things.
I reject your belief that random mindless processes control nature. Nature is under God’s sovereign control. It is clear that Ecclesiastes 9:11 presents the observation of a human teacher that everyone should find easy to believe. Certainly most humans recognize the truth of his words. The only thing that the teacher is saying is that there is disorder on the social level.
It is for this reason that we are able to detect the need for deliberate design to explain the origin of certain phenomena
You must know that the Bible acknowledges the existence of an intelligent designer that creates disorder (Matthew 13:24-28). So when are you going to apply Intelligent Design theory to unmask the evil one scientifically?
statements like yours which, amazingly, suggest that it is scientifically impossible to detect the need for design behind any phenomenon.
Your hasty rush to judgment is unwarranted. My point is that, in Christian philosophy, everything is by design and that it is impossible to prove the absence of design because the conclusions are virtually tautological.
As far as I’m aware, there isn’t a single paper which produces either an example of such evolution in real time nor any kind of mathematical/statistical analysis as to the odds that such evolution could theoretically take place in a reasonable amount of time…
And I don’t believe that there’s a single paper that refutes the possibility.
Your EvoWiki reference is hopelessly naive in light of what happened to Sternberg in the publishing of Meyer’s article.
What I posted is what the loyal opposition respects. And it is your failure to acknowledge and deal honestly with the mainstream countervailing view that is considered unconscionable.
And, you’re not actually addressing the arguments, only your belief in the validity and non-biased nature of peer review when it comes to this particular debate in science.
There is no point in debating a particular style of grasping at straws. The arguments in Meyer’s paper are not scientific and it is clear to me that the reactions of the skeptics do not resemble the responses of intellectually defeated adversaries.
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You’re referencing the opinions of Eugene Shubert as “the†definition of science?!
I thought I was referencing a consensus of scientific opinions compiled by Shubert and denied by you.
Really? The same Eugene Shubert who claimed to have been given personal Divine revelations directly from God Himself?
I haven’t read that. But I have read of Georg Cantor’s belief of having received the mathematical theory of transfinite numbers directly from God. And I have read Cantor’s understanding of the meaning of science. It agrees perfectly with the list of definitions compiled by Shubert.
Angry Scientists: Publishing on Intelligent Design
It is easy to simply declare that I’m obviously wrong. It is quite another thing to clearly explain why. – Sean Pitman
You are right for asserting that God created life (Isaiah 45:7 NIV). You are wrong for not seeing the great evil of the Intelligent Design movement and you are wrong for refusing to discern the definition of science.
Angry Scientists: Publishing on Intelligent Design
The ID movement does not intend to “honor Godâ€.
And they have succeeded in their intent. As it is written, “The wisdom of the prudent is to give thought to their ways, but the folly of fools is deception” (Proverbs 14:8). Likewise, “A fool’s lips bring him strife, and his mouth invites a beating” (Proverbs 18:6).
