Sean, I have heard you make this argument about this not …

Comment on Ravi Zacharias: Should Church Members be Held to a Higher Standard? by Jason Shives.

Sean,

I have heard you make this argument about this not being a moral issue before as well in previous venues you have spoken, and that is the only time I disagree with you. If these were not moral issues, why make a big deal about it? Our church needs to determine what mountains to die on, and they better be moral ones!

Knowledge of how God created and promoting those views in itself asserts a view of who God is and His character, which the law is a transcript of. The creation week is in the heart of the 4th commandment and runs even deeper and more comprehensively through all aspects of doctrine than the more concise “thou shalt nots”. I would seriously request you take the time to really search and pray and study this suggestion of morality out some more.

God bless you in what your doing, even if you don’t think you are morally compelled to defend it,

Jason Shives

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Better to love Him who we KNOW is real and keep His commandments. Amen for a leader with some “Moses” back bone.

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