Well, I disagree. History clearly shows that heathen cultures have …

Comment on Ravi Zacharias: Should Church Members be Held to a Higher Standard? by Ron Stone M.D..

Well, I disagree. History clearly shows that heathen cultures have no morals inherently written on their hearts. So they lie, kill, commit adultry, steal and break every commandment of God with no conscience to tell them otherwise.[edit]Bill Sorensen  

Exactly Bill, Sean’s “proof text” is speaking about those in the world who may “obey” or follow some of God’s or the Bible’s commands or precepts despite the fact that they have not actually or formally studied or even heard of them. This certainly can be true, as atheists or “pagans” sometimes believe in biblical principles such as “Do not kill” etc.

However, you are correct that this is a “sometimes” thing, as many worldly cultures do the exact opposite. The Greek and Roman world was full of many examples. I will not go into details, as we are all familiar with many examples, of which even the Bible has detailed.

We are dealing with the opposite problem here, as those we are criticizing have heard of “Creation” as espoused by the bible, and choose to deny, reject, and oppose it, despite their “knowledge.”

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Rich, Thank you for your truthful and logical explanation as to why Geanna is gone. Kent has told us numerous times HE is going, but he persists!


Ravi Zacharias: Should Church Members be Held to a Higher Standard?

“Since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities—his eternal power and divine nature—have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that men are without excuse.”I don’t see an exemption clause for highly educated Seventh-day Adventists who have agreed to teach at a Seventh-day Adventist institution.

Well, Susie, Sean has an excuse–they don’t really have a true understanding of God’s Word, even though it is plainly written for all to see. In fact, as we see, those who have studied the most, including “Religion Professors” may be even more likely to disbelieve God’s Truth. Check out the departments at LLU and LSU for yourselves.


Ravi Zacharias: Should Church Members be Held to a Higher Standard?
I just want to clarify that I believe in paying tithe to the “organized” church. We all should, if we are bible-believing SDA’s. However, the Pacific Union Conference is so apostate, that I have chosen to apply God’s money elsewhere in our SDA Church. I refuse to support the humanism espoused by many in our California SDA Churches and in the Religion Departments at LSU, LLU, and even PUC.


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My Goal for La Sierra University

The reason the LaSierra situation has gone uncorrected so long is that most of our administrators have exactly the sort of political instincts that Dan Jackson has. They are politicians and consensus builders; they want to keep the peace and make the trains run on time. But the circumstances call for men of principle, hard men who are willing to stand for the right “though the heavens fall,” i.e., regardless who is offended and loudly complains.

Dave, I agree with you. Jackson’s trying to play on “both teams” is not going to go well for him.

Unfortunately, politics is the “SOP” of many of our SDA officials, Jackson being just one. “Political instincts” are the rule, instead of actually doing what is “right” according to what we know in God’s Word.


Bradley, Beach and Kaatz retain attorney

Shane Hilde: Think big fish: LSU or the Seventh-day Adventist Church.Graham might not have followed procedure with these men, but I don’t know what the procedure is. I’ve read what the process is in the faculty handbook, but I don’t know if that applies to administrative positions which are at will employees. If it does apply to them, then it appears the process was not followed.

Trustees book says, in 6,9,F, that the Trustes may “discontinue” virtually anyone working at the university.

Does that mean to “fire” or to “force their resignation? Seems like it does.


My Goal for La Sierra University

GMF: If what has been reported about Jackson is correct it is very troubling. Also, one can only wonder why he was selected as the NAD President.I’ve seen a thing or two which made me wonder about Jackson but this report, if true, has to be the worst. May the Good Lord help us!

Jackson was selected to replace Don Schneider, who was also very “passive” in his approach to this problem.

Besides telling Wisbey to “love Jesus” Jackson did virtually nothing.


My Goal for La Sierra University
Sean, Great summary and analysis of the current situation. Another good review of this matter is in the Jan-March 2011 Elders Journal. It also goes into the 2004 evaluation and recommendations, as you have quoted.


Bradley, Beach and Kaatz retain attorney
How about a “class action” suit against anyone and everyone who has heard the tape or has heard OF the tape?