“[The church leadership is] naturally going to view the group …

Comment on Schneider talks about La Sierra by David Read.

“[The church leadership is] naturally going to view the group calling attention to the problem with more suspicion than they do the LaSierra faculty. The LaSierra faculty is not asking them to do anything, not making their lives more complicated. We are.” –DCR 4/11/10

Story breaking later the same day:

“Schneider then pointed out that those being attacked are also people with souls to save, and that we should be careful how we deal with anybody with opinions that differ from our own. Schneider suggested that it might even be possible that some would end up ‘outside the wall’ of heaven because of condemnatory attitudes. ‘Attitude is important!’ Schneider said to applause.”

Plain English Translation: The people calling attention to the Darwinist professors at LaSierra are the real problem, not the Darwinists professors at LaSierra.

I hate to say I told you so, but I told you so. I’m neither a prophet nor the son of a prophet, but it is downright eerie that I wrote what I wrote, and then Schneider’s words would be reported just a few hours later.

“Schneider went on to say that he tried to pay a visit to university president Randal Wisbey (who was not in the office that day). Schneider wanted to encourage Wisbey to “stay close to Jesus” and to be his friend.”

So Wisbey is the one that needs reassurance and encouragement?? Incredible.

Another factor that I didn’t mention on the other thread is that paid church employees may not like each other or agree with each other, but they’ll certainly stick together against the laity.

Recent Comments by David Read

The Reptile King
Poor Larry Geraty! He can’t understand why anyone would think him sympathetic to theistic evolution. Well, for starters, he wrote this for Spectrum last year:

“Christ tells us they will know us by our love, not by our commitment to a seven literal historical, consecutive, contiguous 24-hour day week of creation 6,000 years ago which is NOT in Genesis no matter how much the fundamentalist wing of the church would like to see it there.”

“Fundamental Belief No. 6 uses Biblical language to which we can all agree; once you start interpreting it according to anyone’s preference you begin to cut out members who have a different interpretation. I wholeheartedly affirm Scripture, but NOT the extra-Biblical interpretation of the Michigan Conference.”

So the traditional Adventist interpretation of Genesis is an “extra-Biblical interpretation” put forward by “the fundamentalist wing” of the SDA Church? What are people supposed to think about Larry Geraty’s views?

It is no mystery how LaSierra got in the condition it is in.

The Reptile King
Professor Kent says:

“I don’t do ‘orgins science.’ Not a single publication on the topic. I study contemporary biology. Plenty of publications.”

So, if you did science that related to origins, you would do it pursuant to the biblical paradigm, that is pursuant to the assumption that Genesis 1-11 is true history, correct?

The Reptile King
Well, Jeff, would it work better for you if we just closed the biology and religion departments? I’m open to that as a possible solution.

The Reptile King
Larry Geraty really did a job on LaSierra. Personally I think it is way gone, compromised beyond hope. The SDA Church should just cut its ties to LaSierra, and cut its losses.

As to the discussion on this thread, round up the usual suspects and their usual arguments.

La Sierra University Resignation Saga: Stranger-than-Fiction
It is a remarkably fair and unbiased article, and a pretty fair summary of what was said in the recorded conversation.