@Shane Hilde: However, you jump to an unsupported conclusion as …

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@Shane Hilde:

However, you jump to an unsupported conclusion as to the reason for LSU’s jump in enrollment. I could just as easily assert that the jump is a result of LSU attracting more like minded students in regard to origins

Alright, fair enough. My reason for making that conclusion is the fact that I know a fair number, say 20 or so, of the the students that are a part of that “record freshman class” and I know that La Sierra’s status as a progressive Adventist University evidenced by the fact that they teach about evolution played a large part of their thinking. So yes, my sample is about 5% of the class.

credible peer reviewed scientific journal

Perhaps I should have defined that better. When I say credible, I mean it is accepted and used by the scientific community at large. Unlike the answers research journal which had authors go under a pseudonym. My challenge still stands, I would like to see one evidence from a credible/mainstream scientific journal for young earth creationism.

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Record enrollment for LSU
@Shane Hilde:

Yes, it’s a novel concept for LSU because they don’t even promote church doctrine, at least not in regard to origins.

As I stated in my post:

students do not want to go to a school that simply promotes church doctrine

Which is why La Sierra has seen it’s enrollment go up. I saw that play out with the senior class last year and it’s playing out again this year. My school had never seen that many students go to La Sierra as they have this year.

Educate Truth has been pushing for, at the very least, to have a variety of views presented in the biology department. Of course it would be preferable that LSU fall on the side of creation, but since they don’t it would be good of them to at least present evidence from both sides.

La Sierra has already stated that it’s position falls on the side of creation. However, as even one of your scientists at the Geological Research Institute admitted, you can’t argue that from a scientific perspective, only from a theological perspective. It’s hard to present scientific evidence that does not exist.

I challenge anyone to show me a biology class at LSU that presents the evidence from the opposing side. If LSU could do that, it would be one giant leap in the right direction.

…and I challenge anyone to show me from a credible peer reviewed scientific journal evidence for young earth creationism.

I’m hoping I won’t get mobbed like I did the last time I did here..

Record enrollment for LSU
@JImmy: Jimmy, it really isn’t worth it to argue with them here, I’ve tried previously. The fact is that us students do not want to go to a school that simply promotes church doctrine, we want a school that supports church doctrine while having a wide variety of view points within it’s faculty. Evidently that’s a novel concept.

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