I was quoting a “Martha Kay” posting on this thread. …

Comment on Silence of the Geoscience Research Institute by Ervin Taylor.

I was quoting a “Martha Kay” posting on this thread. My error. Thank you for noting this mistyping.

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Silence of the Geoscience Research Institute
I hope that “Martha Kay” has not gone away mad. We need her/him to post again so we all know that she/he actually exists. But perhaps the individual who suggested that “Martha” is really “Ron Stone, MD” in drag came too close to the truth.

Silence of the Geoscience Research Institute
A posting by one Martha Ray states that “. . . . I had no ideal that Billy Graham supports this ministry. If he believes in an old earth then he is not really believe in the Bible and he is nothing but a big fat LIAR!!! How can these people claim to be Christian? If there is anyone at La Sierra or Geoscience Research [Institute] that believes in an earth older than about 6,000 years, they must be fired IMMEDIATELY!!! We must cleanse our church of such infidelity and never let them back in again.”

I can not believe that any reasonable individual—even someone posting on the EducateTruth site—can be as insensitive and misguided as that represented by the words of a “Martha Ray.” Might she (or he?) be an extremist provocateur, using a pseudonym to discredit the position that this site is espousing.

I would very much like to quote Ms. Ray as an example of the intellectual irresponsibility of those who support the EducateTruth agenda. But, to be fair, those running this web site must be given an opportunity to distance themselves from these kinds of rants. I sure they do not want to be seen as supporting such views.

Silence of the Geoscience Research Institute
Mr. Hill submits that geology, paleontology, astronomy, radiometric analysis and genetics “do not support a young earth view.” He could have added a large number of other scientific disciplines to his list.

He notes that “The biological sciences are not alone in the questioning a young earth viewpoint. Like many other scientific disciplines, [the biological sciences] form a theoretical matrix with all of the natural sciences along with physics and mathematics. This matrix alone and in total do not support a 6 day creation . . . [If] the theory of biological evolution is heretical, teaching something other than a perspective that supports official church teachings, then other branches of science that do not confirm a young earth creation are equally suspect and should be equally condemned as heresy.”

Mr. Hill exhibits an excellent grasp of the problem facing young earth and young life creationists.

His logic is impeccable.

I wonder if others that post regularly on this web site get the point. I suspect not.

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What does it take to be a true Seventh-day Adventist?
I just noticed Sean’s comment some time ago that “John’s “Revelation” has very little to do with the Roman Empire.”

Perhaps Sean was just trying to be funny or something. If he was serious, then I guess I will have to revise my assumption about his knowledge of the Bible. That was the entire context of the Book of Revelation. But I guess someone who rejects evolution must also have some problems with history.

La Sierra University Hires Another Darwinist
LSU should be congratulated for standing-up against the reactionary forces who wants to turn it into a Bible College. May LSU live long and prosper — as it is doing now with enrollments continuing to increase and new buildings going up.

What does it take to be a true Seventh-day Adventist?
It would appear that Dr. Pitman aspires to be the modern Adventist version of Girolamo Aleandro.

For those a little hazy about the history of the Reformation, Girolamo was the individual appointed as papal nuncio by the Pope to be the theological point person opposing Martin Luther and his theology at the Diet of Worms. (The Diet of Worms was an assembly of churchmen and political elites of the Holy Roman Empire in Germany which met in 1521, not a list of things to eat to reduce your weight. And Worms was not an item on the menu, it was a town).

Girolamo argued that Luther had no right to challenge the church’s theology. That theology had been settled for hundreds of years and had been agreed upon by scores of theologians. It was the truth.

Girolamo wrote the denunciations of Luther that were embodied in the Edict of Worms which declared Luther to be a heretic.

After attending the Diet of Worms, Girolamo went to Brussels and was instrumental at having two monks who had adhered to the teachings of Luther burned at the stake.

Sean, like Girolamo, appears to view his role is to root our heresy where ever he finds it in the Adventist Church.

Fortunately for the rest of us, Sean,
unlike Girolamo, has no power to carry out what he would to see happened to those he denounces as Adventist heretics.

Southern Adventist University opens Origins Exhibit
I’m sure that the vast majority of scientifically-informed Adventists will thank Dr.Kent for his every effective and rational approaches to the views expressed by Dr. Pitman and others on this misnamed web site. There is little that needs to be added. Dr. Kent has done a masterful job of exposing the misunderstandings of scientific data dealing with geology and evolutionary biology that has been offered by Dr. Pitman on this and his own web site.

Southern Adventist University opens Origins Exhibit
I see that Professor Kent has been casting pearls of logic and reasonableness before certain types of individuals on the educate truth (sic) web site again. I share with him my amazement at the new insights about inspiration revealed here.