@Sean Pitman: To equate the paulucean kind of …

Comment on Believing the Disproven – An Adventure in Science by wesley kime.

@Sean Pitman: To equate the paulucean kind of faith in emasculated Christianity, more appropriate to nirvana meditation and a Monastery chant than prayer, leaving nothing of substance left to Christianity but the shuck and shell of its abandoned name, is like edicting Darwinean theory to consummate unchallengeable science itself, and then enforcing it by court order. When all else fails, it’s the culture. http://www.iessaythere.com/culture%2c-stupid.html

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@George: What is the accepted atheist interjection? You’re asking a blinkered old SDA? It is: OMG! Or OMG!!!!!!!! Or OMG :-} On twitter, #OMG.


Believing the Disproven – An Adventure in Science
@George:

So, do you honestly know your biblical god exists, or do you simply take the gestalt moment you felt under the klieg lights in the carnival tent at age 10 and circumscribe all your inquires therein? Take a good, hard look in the mirror Dr. Kime rather than just disparage those that have honest doubts about how religious belief comes about?

Honestly, Over the past half century since it’s become popular among Adventists too, and over the years on this blog, I’ve heard a lot of agnostics but never heard it put more crisply and nicely, with more postmodern whimsy (“uncertainties are my nuggets” or words to that effect), probably never more civilly, despite the part about “disparage.” Here we are, home, home on the range where seldom is heard a disparaging word. So you can’t be serious, can you? But seriously, it’s a privilege to be the one to whom is sung such a hymn to uncertainty, at whom such a gem, may I say nugget, is slung.

Now, putting down the mirror you handed me, smiling at your gift and at what I saw in it under the klieg lights (mainly jowls and sagging gestalt), may I submit that if there can be such things as “honest doubts,” exquisitely indubitably standardized and syllabized as they are, are there not also “honest certainties,” certainly of the Bible? You’ve got those, I’ve got these, and that’s that, undoubtedly, honestly, cordially. Eternally?
Yea-hee, pard! Lasso yourself a good undisparaged New Year, out here on the discouraging range!


Believing the Disproven – An Adventure in Science
@george:
Anent your comment unwittingly rhymed, I have a loose quatrain divined, to wit:
“Wit of Wes /No less,/ But an agnostic pest/ Doing my best/ I must remain.” It
Has more or less impelled me to board your rhyming train, to get:

Gentle ole George, grizzled George, he was a High Plains Drifter.
At home home on the discouraging range and purple prairie,
Hard panning for token gold among the tumbleweeds, suffering many a blister,
He merrily unearthed uncertainties many and airy, but nuggets nary.


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I accept that I must accept it, wholly, actively, even with agony, with my whole being.