At one time the former president of Pacific Union University, whose name escapes me, posted here how studies show that relationships rather than doctrines are more critical for retention of our youth. Unfortunately, his contributions were not appreciated here, so we haven’t heard from him in some while.

Richard Osborn felt we have been teaching too much SDA stuff and that the SDA Church and its institutions should be teaching more secular humanistic philosophies so our SDA students will be more prepared for the “real world.” This type of thinking goes against all logic, as most bible-believing SDA’s will admit.

This perhaps is one reason why he was fired (forced resignation by his own admission) from PUC. I wonder why, with that educational philosophy, he was allowed to remain for 39(?) years “serving” our Church.

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But the bottom line is apostasy of belief is rampant and those who believe not the obvious SDA truths should leave for the benefit of all including themselves. We will not damn you to hell because that is not our prerogative and certainly not our desire for any person.

At one time the former president of Pacific Union University, whose name escapes me, posted here how studies show that relationships rather than doctrines are more critical for retention of our youth. Unfortunately, his contributions were not appreciated here, so we haven’t heard from him in some while. But it seems to me that the present focus on doctrines is counterproductive if the Church can save more SDAs by identifying and adressing the more critical issues rather than rehashing doctrinal purity over and over. Just a suggestion.

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“Why? Is Dawkins known for his legal “expertise”??

Is Dawkins somehow related to the WASC??

Why Johns vs Dawkins?

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in Christ,

Bob BobRyan(Quote)”

Dear Bob

Sorry about the delay in response to your question, I’ve been following too many threads!

I was bit vague wasn’t I? In my mind I was thinking that Mr Johns, with his apparent advocacy skills and faith, would be a worthy adversary for Richard Dawkins in debate. Nothing like two, strong, diametrically opposed minds going head to head in debate to bring out the best of the arguments.

Regards
Ken

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On June 29, WASC reported it will be returning to the campus in 2011 to review “teaching evolution in the science curricula.”

Where is this report? My Google search of relevant keywords turned up nothing. Is this inside information that has been leaked?

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It would be neat to see Mr Johns and Mr. Dawkins go head to head in open, public debate.

Why? Is Dawkins known for his legal “expertise”??

Is Dawkins somehow related to the WASC??

Why Johns vs Dawkins?

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in Christ,

Bob

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Now WASC at La Sierra has contacted La Sierra and said, “We believe in academic freedom as an accreditation agency. And if the church is going to meddle in what goes on in the classroom, then we will pull your accreditation. Lake Union Q&A

Now Larry Blackmer clarified this comment with the following:

LSU has received no threats from WASC, actually WASC had already, unknown to me, evaluated the school before my comments, and given the school a good report. The person I referred to in my comments has no direct connection to LSU accreditation, and the person who does have direct contact has made no statements in this nature at all. Comment

Makes me wonder more about this WASC issue now that they’re reviewing this evolution issue next year.

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I agree. I think your site is doing wonders to shed light and debate on the issues. Congratulations.

It would be neat to see Mr Johns and Mr. Dawkins go head to head in open, public debate.

Regards
Ken

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