Comment on Video show LSU undermining church doctrine by Sean Pitman.
CONCLUSION BASED ON DATA: (let’s get to the bottom of this once and for all; perhaps Sean Pitman can calculate probabilities once the data have been collected)
Where have you been Geanna? Have you not read Louie’s letter? Have you not read the lecture handouts and the published statements of the teachers themselves with regard to what they believe and personally claim to teach their students regarding the truth of evolutionary theories?
The available information is abundant; certainly not limited to the above-listed videos which only deal with the new freshman class. This new class was advertised, by LSU, as an introduction to science and religion with an emphasis on SDA doctrinal beliefs on origins – i.e., in support of a literal creation week and Genesis account. The advertisements were clearly mistaken.
Nowhere in these lectures are SDA beliefs on origins presented in a favorable manner. They are constantly challenged and undermined with an emphasis placed on a need to be open to changing previously “fundamental” beliefs – – all without any support of SDA doctrinal ideals from the LSU staff leading out in this class (not that that is any big surprise given what they already believe and teach regarding SDA beliefs on origins).
Now, if you think we are so clearly off base in all of this, why doesn’t LSU present the falsifying evidence? It should be easy to do. Just have the professors themselves explain what they teach their students – that they do actually present the SDA position on origins as the gospel truth in their classes and explain the pitfalls and problems with the naturalistic evolutionary theory of origins. Or, better yet, present videos of lectures where this sort of thing is being done in LSU science classrooms. Such counter-evidence would be most compelling and most welcome!
As it currently stands, the overwhelming weight of evidence clearly shows that LSU is actively and decidedly undermining SDA fundamental doctrinal beliefs in its science, and even religion, classrooms…
Sean Pitman
www.DetectingDesign.com
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@Geanna Dane:
I wrote a very nice, very sincere reply to Sean, thanking him for the many positive things he does for the church. There was no anger or sarcasm in the message.
You really don’t see how anyone who has read many of your posts would reasonably interpret much of your reply here (@Geanna Dane) as being the least bit sarcastic?
Anyway, all the best to you. Again, my father remembers you and your family fondly from your time at BMA and wishes you well. I think he even baptized you if I am remembering correctly?
I just want to say before you go that, if nothing else, you certainly got people thinking and talking on this forum. ; )
Sean
Video show LSU undermining church doctrine
@Geanna Dane:
I didn’t say either, Sean.
If you agree that this issue is important and something needs to be done to correct what is being promoted at LSU, promoted as a direct attack on the clearly stated Pillars of SDA Faith, what is your recommendation to solve the problem? I’m very curious to hear what you would recommend…
Sean Pitman
www.DetectingDesign.com
Video show LSU undermining church doctrine
@Inge Anderson:
I think Geanna considers Shane and I to be the divisive ones. She doesn’t seem to consider that perhaps the actions of LSU are divisive. Several LSU professors in both science and religion departments have been in direct long-standing and open rebellion against the stated goals and ideals of the SDA Church. Despite the concerted efforts of many to privately address and turn the course of LSU, there has been strong resistence and even outright denials of the obvious truth of the situation. Yet, Geanna pins the blame for division, not on LSU, but on those who are striving for increased transparency from our schools and to correct the fundamental division that is already there and has been tearing the Church apart for decades…
I’m sorry Geanna, but if you really value the experience you have had in SDA schools, as compared to your public school education, you should be supporting us on this issue – not attacking us for producing increased transparency here. After all, without some sort of resistance to what is taking place in schools of ours like LSU, there would be no school for you to attend that would be significantly better than the secular schools you attended where professors were obviously scornful of your “ludicrous” beliefs in the literal Genesis narrative – to include a literal creation week.
This very same thing has long been taking place at LSU, especially in the upper division science classes. For decades now LSU science professors have openly scoffed at the literal SDA interpretation of the Genesis account – publicly discounting such a nonsense position as equivalent to believing in something like a “flat Earth”…
And you’re attacking us for our efforts to maintain what you admittedly value so much?!
I believe your focus and passion are misplaced…
Sean Pitman
www.DetectingDesign.com
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