Here is publicly posted description from a La Sierra student …

Comment on NAD President, Education Director Dialog with La Sierra Campus Community by Professor Kent.

Here is publicly posted description from a La Sierra student who responded to a question whether LSU biology faculty have taught theistic evolution as fact this past year, or have belittled a literal creation week a relatively short time (thousands of years) ago:

My experience has been that none of my professors teach any theories as fact. They teach that all theories are interpretations of observations and attempts to understand things. These understandings continually change. Some make better sense than others given the understandings at the moment. All acknowledge that the Bible says very little about any mechanisms of how things are or how they came to be. That isn’t the domain of the Bible and if we were to put all the scientific explanations from the Bible it would be a very small booklet indeed. That’s not the fault of the Bible because it never was meant to be a science textbook. It’s poor science to attempt to construe the evidence to fit a predetermined theory, whether that is of a creationist-theology kind, a theistic-evolution kind or a materialist-evolutionary kind. Do the science and do the theology. If and when they don’t align, that is a separate discussion to be had. But neither are served well by trying to force one to fit the other. Clear thinking it important for science and for theology. Adherence to a set form of belief in science or theology because that is what has been held in the past is not good science or good theology. I’ve learned and developed skills in healthy thinking through my studies and for that I am deeply grateful. Thank you La Sierra!”

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NAD President, Education Director Dialog with La Sierra Campus Community
I think we should let dead dogs rest.

NAD President, Education Director Dialog with La Sierra Campus Community
Obviously, the issue is being addressed. You folks whine and complain and gossip every time something appears to be getting done by the Church’s leadership–leadership which you folks disrespect. The gossip and allegations and innuendos are as endless as Bob repeating Bob.

NAD President, Education Director Dialog with La Sierra Campus Community
Shane, I’m not disputing your experience and that some disrespectful treatment was doled out in years past.

What I am trying to say is that things have now changed, and I wish you folks would welcome that news rather than continue to deny it and maintain the ad hominen attacks not just on the biology faculty but on virtually all levels of Church administration.

Can you please use your influence to stop the completely unnecessary accusations made by certain individuals here who feel they can make such statements without any foundation in fact?

Recent Comments by Professor Kent

Gary Gilbert, Spectrum, and Pseudogenes
Nic&#032Samojluk: No wonder most creationist writers do not even try to submit their papers to such organizations.
Who wants to waste his/her time trying to enter through a door that is closed to him/her a priori?

You have no idea what you’re writing about, Nic. As it turns out, there are in fact many of us Adventists who “waste” our time publishing articles through doors that open to us a priori. Even Leonard Brand at Loma Linda, a widely recognized creationist, has published in the top geology journals. I mean the top journals in the discipline.

The myth that creationists cannot publish in mainstream science is perpetuated by people who simply do not understand the culture of science–and will remain clueless that they do not understand it even when confronted with their misunderstandings. Such is human nature.

Southern Adventist University opens Origins Exhibit

Your questions about conservation genetics are very insightful. I don’t understand how all these life forms were able to greatly increase in genetic diversity while simultaneously winding down and losing genetic information to mutations. Sean seems to insist that both processes happen simultaneously. I had the impression he has insisted all along that the former cannot overcome the latter. But I think you must be right: God had to intervene to alter the course of nature. However, we can probably test this empirically because there must be a signature of evidence available in the DNA. I’ll bet Sean can find the evidence for this.

I’m also glad the predators (just 2 of most such species) in the ark had enough clean animals (14 of each such species) to eat during the deluge and in the months and years after they emerged from the ark that they didn’t wipe out the vast majority of animal species through predation. Maybe they all consumed manna while in the ark and during the first few months or years afterward. Perhaps Sean can find in the literature a gene for a single digestive enzyme that is common to all predatory animals, from the lowest invertebrate to the highest vertebrate. Now that would be amazing.

Wait a minute–I remember once being told that SDA biologists like Art Chadwick believe that some animals survived on floating vegetation outside the ark. Now that would solve some of these very real problems! I wonder whether readers here would allow for this possibility. Multiple arks without walls, roof, and human caretakers.

Southern Adventist University opens Origins Exhibit

Ellen White said, “In the days of Noah, men…many times larger than now exist, were buried, and thus preserved as an evidence to later generations that the antediluvians [presumably referring to humans] perished by a flood. God designed that the discovery of these things should establish faith in inspired history…”

Sean Pitman said, “All human fossils discovered so far are Tertiary or post-Flood fossils. There are no known antediluvian human fossils.”

Ellen White tells us that humans and dinosaurs (presumably referred to in the statement, “a class of very large animals which perished at the flood… mammoth animals”) lived together before the flood. Evolutionary biologists tell us that dinosaurs and humans never lived together. You’re telling us, Sean, that the fossil record supports the conclusion of evolutionists rather than that of Ellen White and the SDA Church. Many of the “very large animals which perished at the flood” are found only in fossil deposits prior to or attributed to the flood, whereas hunans occur in fossil deposits only after the flood (when their numbers were most scarce).

Should the SDA biologists, who are supposed to teach “creation science,” be fired if they teach what you have just conceded?

La Sierra Univeristy Fires Dr. Lee Greer; Signs anti-Creation Bond
For those aghast about the LSU situation and wondering what other SDA institutions have taken out bonds, hold on to your britches. You’ll be stunned when you learn (soon) how many of our other schools, and which ones in particular, have taken out these bonds. You will be amazed to learn just how many other administrators have deliberately secularized their institutions besides Randal Wisbey, presumably because they too hate the SDA Church (as David Read has put it so tactfully).

Be sure to protest equally loudly.

Gary Gilbert, Spectrum, and Pseudogenes
@Sean Pitman:

So clearly you believe that science can explain supernatural events. Congratulations on that.