This is the first time, that I know of, that …

Comment on NAD President, Education Director Dialog with La Sierra Campus Community by Shane Hilde.

This is the first time, that I know of, that an LSU person has leaked something. At this point I can only assume this person or persons thought it would potentially beneficial to LSU’s to leak these recordings.

If anything has changed at LSU, it’s the biology department ducking for cover and waiting for things to blow over, as Bradley so nicely put it. I’d be surprised if the way the curriculum is being taught has changed.

If LSU faculty see some wiggle room out of this, they’ll take it. You don’t have a track record of hiding what has been taught and then all of a sudden have an ah-ha moment and completely change status quo. The only reason we’re seeing anything happening at LSU is because what they have been doing has seen the light of day.

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NAD President, Education Director Dialog with La Sierra Campus Community
@Odessa: I’ve been at this for two years. If you’ve already decided they don’t do it it won’t matter what I show you. My own personal testimony won’t convince, nor will the experience of my friends. I’ve experienced, heard it, and seen it. There’s plenty of LSU presentations that just show evolution, not one cent of the evidence for creation.

I don’t believe there is anything I can say that would change your mind.

NAD President, Education Director Dialog with La Sierra Campus Community
@Odessa: The evidence is in student testimony and class curriculum. One of the retired professors even put it in print in one of his lectures:

There is nothing “theoretical” about the evidence supporting evolution. The research about evolution is ongoing and continues to support and refine Darwin’s original ideas. No data have been found to refute the idea. It is the single unifying explanation of the living world, and nothing makes much, if any, sense outside of this unifying theory. BIO 112

We have lots of presentations from the biology department the present the evidence for evolution; however, we have yet to see anything supporting recent life on earth etc. This strong indicates that creationism is not be taught or even presented. They don’t have to be explicit. They’ve admitted to what they personally believe, and this ends up playing out in how the material is taught. If creationism isn’t even receiving notice other than “oh by the way the church believes God created things about 6,000 years ago”, then it’s safe to assume evolution is being presented as the best alternative.

You’re welcome to browse what we have on hand.

NAD President, Education Director Dialog with La Sierra Campus Community
Well apparently there are students who say they didn’t and students who say they did. I’m a graduate who sat through one biology course and he did in fact teach the theory as if it was true/fact.

Given that many of them are evolutionists, it’s not hard to imagine which side of the line they would fall when teaching. I’m sure they’ve clammed up in the last two years.

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@David Read: And perhaps not something Christ would do. I can understand your frustration though. I’ve been on the verge of quitting this whole thing many times. I’ve been guilty of letting that frustration control and influence things I shouldn’t have said.

I have to remind myself to look at the big picture. In the end all those who are not supposed to be in the church will be sifted out. I pray I am not one of them.

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I know from talking to a couple of reporters from Press Enterprise and Inside Higher Ed that Randal Wisbey was effective in shutting down communication between any outsiders and the biology faculty. It appears he made himself the only channel of communication between the board and biology faculty.

I emailed Larry Becker about what bylaw the board members broke that was worthy of dismissal, and I have yet to hear a response from him.

I would also note that board members at other universities appear to be free to talk to the faculty.

Another interesting point. He removes three board members for trying to work on the problem and come up with a solution, and then turns around sort of embraces what they’re doing. He can’t publicly condemn it because everyone can see, whether you agree with what they wrote or not, that it’s a significant step for the faculty to be speaking to the church.

Did he forbid the document from being published? No. If you’re really excited about seeing the biology department making advancements in solving the issue, why are you removing the people who are making that happen. He never did anything like that.

What has Wisbey done to address and fix this issue? Nothing. He’s dragged it out, lied about what’s been happening, and told everyone involved to shut up or get in trouble. What on earth is he trying to do?

Who knows, he might even be a part of the underground movement to sever LSU from the church by using WASC as the big hammer. It’s obvious from one former board member, there was interest in using WASC to manipulate the situation.