BobRyan: Your argument above is stretched very thin as it …

Comment on LSU undergraduate biology bulletin by Eugene Shubert.

BobRyan: Your argument above is stretched very thin as it must somehow imagine that Jan Paulsen not only does not speak for the denomination as President of the GC – he also does not even speak for the GC as a corporate entity even though he is it’s president! That is going pretty far out on a limb of your own devising. You are missing the not-so-subtle difference between ineffective leadership to stop some activity in a given area — vs — being an outright evangelist for the very activity they are trying to stop. That is a detail in the difference that most everyone here will notice.


I genuinely don’t believe that the Lord has excused GC President Jan Paulsen just because he gave his very best ineffective response. By comparison, consider the sin of Achan. Joshua and the elders of Israel were in great affliction. They laid before the ark of God in most abject humility because the Lord was wroth with His people. They prayed and wept before God but that wasn’t good enough. So the Lord spoke to Joshua: “Get thee up; wherefore liest thou thus upon thy face? Israel hath sinned, and they have also transgressed My covenant which I commanded them: for they have even taken of the accursed thing, and have also stolen, and dissembled also, and they have put it even among their own stuff. Therefore the children of Israel could not stand before their enemies, but turned their backs before their enemies, because they were accursed: neither will I be with you any more, except ye destroy the accursed from among you.”

Our present crisis demands a shaking message and I don’t believe that continuing nice-sounding platitudes toward the ultra-Darwinist Adventists at LSU could be effective or pass God’s standard of obedience for GC leaders.

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Christiane Marshall:
I think many of your statements regarding individuals are seriously out of line.

I sincerely apologize to Gozer the Gozerian and his family for interpreting his rampage on the City of New York as an act of terrorism. Perhaps I misunderstood. I admit that I don’t know much about the spirit world. Perhaps he was only having a little innocent fun.

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Christiane Marshall:
We cannot speak authoritatively when it comes to the motives of others unless we are a messenger or prophet of God. Unless you claim this office, you need to measure your words more carefully.

I have not judged anyone’s motives. I have observed the visible actions of a herd and I have accurately described those actions. And my description is consistent with the writings of Sister White and an inspired dream of Steve Starman. And for those reasons, since you brought it up, yes, I’ll accept the messenger exemption.

LSU undergraduate biology bulletin

In the Kellogg crisis, God said, “Neither will I be with you any more, unless you awake, and vindicate your Redeemer.” To Joshua God said, “neither will I be with you any more, except ye destroy the accursed from among you.”

God is demanding results and speaking respectfully of demonic doctrines and continuing with the ridiculous pretense that demonic power isn’t present in the church, continually growing and seizing ever-greater control, isn’t going to cut it. I believe that this charade must end.

The ineffectiveness of GC President Jan Paulsen and the magnitude of the problem reminds me of the time when Gozer the Traveler was terrorizing New York City and the Ghostbusters appointed their best scientist, Dr. Ray Stantz, to deal with the crisis:

“DR RAY STANTZ: Gozer the Gozerian… good evening. As a duly designated representative of the City, County and State of New York, I order you to cease any and all supernatural activity and return forthwith to your place of origin or to the nearest convenient parallel dimension.”

Just think of me as another Dr. Peter Venkman who sarcastically said, “That oughta do it. Thanks very much, Ray.”

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… the LSU evolutionists are employing a “foxhole mentality” among their student devotees – convincing them that it is “us against the rest of the Adventist church and against Adventist administrators that simply pay lip service to Bible creation”.

That is essentially correct. There are two sides to every issue. The dispute here is between science and the Bible. The scientists believe that science should be taught in science class. The opinionated non-scientists that reject science and have no clue what it is, are content with either replacing science with pseudo-science or just getting rid of the teaching of science permanently.

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Since you have offerred no response to points raised – the point Christ,Bob  

I already presented the mathematical response: “The odds for any particular sequence of 100 flips of a coin is 1/2^100, which is not zero.”

Do you agree or disagree with the mathematics?

The rest of your attempt to articulate a thought about science is barely intelligible. If you wish to be understood, please write with precision in a scientifically discernible form. I do not understand lowbrow diction. Please learn and use the universal language of science.

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Stephen Vicaro:
Eugene, Now we know your true ambitions!

No, that part isn’t clear. But we do know your rank and the rank of your associates in The Seven Faces of Seventh-day Adventism.

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In the case of the coin flip we have 100 very likely events (50/50) in sequence and by adding the statistics of “sequence” to the probability – we get “NIL”.

You’re speaking gibberish. “NIL” means “nothing; naught; zero.” The odds for any particular sequence of 100 flips of a coin is 1/2^100, which is not zero. And your expressed method of computation, “by adding the statistics of `sequence’ to the probability” is unabashed gibberish and demonstrates that you have absolutely no understanding of the science of probability theory.

You obviously feel great peace when unbelievers curse God because of your willful stupidity.
Are you proud of being a contributing influence that justifies unbelievers in their rejection of Christ?

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Richard Sherwin:
Eugene so it is only scientists who can have the truth? Science is now superseding the Bible? Are you listening to what you are saying? You are saying that science is God!

It is as Steven Weinberg has said: “With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.”

In other words, “the name of God is blasphemed among the Gentiles because of you” (Ro 2:24).

So grow up and stop practicing deceit.