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	<title>Comments on: LSU Professor Doubts Christ&#8217;s Divinity</title>
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		<title>By: Lydian Belknap</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lydian Belknap</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Apr 2010 07:21:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This “nice” label reminds me of a book I purchased not long ago.  The author is Timothy Smith and the book is entitled “The Danger of Raising NICE KIDS.” The Subtitle is “Preparing Our Children to Change Their World”

“Nice” people can open the door for others to go through, help a disabled person to make it safely across the street, use good table manners, etc–and Mr. Greer may be all of this--but we need and want MORE than this from our leaders and institutions. We need honest, God-fearing men and women in charge of our most precious possessions--our children. And a person is not honest if he (or she) takes a paycheck from an employer while underminding the employer&#039;s foundational principles.   

     “The greatest want of the world is the want of men--men who will not be bought or sold, men who in their inmost souls are true and honest, men who do not fear to call sin by its right name, men whose conscience is as true to duty as the needle to the pole, men who will stand for the right though the heavens fall.”  EGW, Education, pg. 57 (And this applies to women also!!!)

Somehow I don’t see these characteristics in Mr. Greer or any of the other faculty members who are teaching “doctrines” that are destroying the faith of the young people entrusted to their care. Anyone who will take a paycheck from his employer while undermining the very foundation upon which his employer stands is certainly not the person who should be teaching our youth!  They are welcome to their views but that does NOT  give them license to undermine the very foundation of our church and indoctrinate young minds in error!  

Further, I also don’t see those characteristics in some of the “higher-ups” who have allowed this despicable situation to continue for so many years. I don’t care how “spiritual” they may appear or how many “wonderful sermons” they may preach or how high they are in the chain of command--they are also betraying their God and they, as well as the teachers they are defending, should be dealt with speedily and firmly. 

I, personally, am very grateful for the courage displayed by those who have spoken out and made these web sites available to the church at large.  ‘Till I ran across these I was totally unaware that this was happening in our schools and other institutions (apparently LSU isn’t the only one–just the worst one). And I’m reasonably sure that  a great number of our people are in the same situation.  It isn’t preached from the pulpit and many, many of our people do not have access to a computer. (Many through choice, I might add–which absolutely amazes me.)

It is past time for this to be cleaned up from top to bottom and I hope and pray that strong action will be taken this summer.  May God give us the kind of men and women that will pick up the torch of truth an courageously “clean house!”

Remember:

The Lambs Follow the Sheep 

‘Twas a sheep, not a lamb, that went astray
In a parable Jesus told–
A grown-up sheep that had gone astray
From the ninety and nine in the fold.

The Lambs will follow the sheep. you know,
Wherever the sheep will stray,
If the sheep go wrong, it will not be long
‘Till the Lambs are as wrong as they.

And so with the sheep we earnestly plead.
For the sake of the lambs today– 
If the lambs are lost, what a terrible cost
Some sheep will have to pay!

Author Unknown 

And God will hold those “sheep” accountable in the very near future--and the rest of us accountable if we fail to do something about the situation!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This “nice” label reminds me of a book I purchased not long ago.  The author is Timothy Smith and the book is entitled “The Danger of Raising NICE KIDS.” The Subtitle is “Preparing Our Children to Change Their World”</p>
<p>“Nice” people can open the door for others to go through, help a disabled person to make it safely across the street, use good table manners, etc–and Mr. Greer may be all of this&#8211;but we need and want MORE than this from our leaders and institutions. We need honest, God-fearing men and women in charge of our most precious possessions&#8211;our children. And a person is not honest if he (or she) takes a paycheck from an employer while underminding the employer&#8217;s foundational principles.   </p>
<p>     “The greatest want of the world is the want of men&#8211;men who will not be bought or sold, men who in their inmost souls are true and honest, men who do not fear to call sin by its right name, men whose conscience is as true to duty as the needle to the pole, men who will stand for the right though the heavens fall.”  EGW, Education, pg. 57 (And this applies to women also!!!)</p>
<p>Somehow I don’t see these characteristics in Mr. Greer or any of the other faculty members who are teaching “doctrines” that are destroying the faith of the young people entrusted to their care. Anyone who will take a paycheck from his employer while undermining the very foundation upon which his employer stands is certainly not the person who should be teaching our youth!  They are welcome to their views but that does NOT  give them license to undermine the very foundation of our church and indoctrinate young minds in error!  </p>
<p>Further, I also don’t see those characteristics in some of the “higher-ups” who have allowed this despicable situation to continue for so many years. I don’t care how “spiritual” they may appear or how many “wonderful sermons” they may preach or how high they are in the chain of command&#8211;they are also betraying their God and they, as well as the teachers they are defending, should be dealt with speedily and firmly. </p>
<p>I, personally, am very grateful for the courage displayed by those who have spoken out and made these web sites available to the church at large.  ‘Till I ran across these I was totally unaware that this was happening in our schools and other institutions (apparently LSU isn’t the only one–just the worst one). And I’m reasonably sure that  a great number of our people are in the same situation.  It isn’t preached from the pulpit and many, many of our people do not have access to a computer. (Many through choice, I might add–which absolutely amazes me.)</p>
<p>It is past time for this to be cleaned up from top to bottom and I hope and pray that strong action will be taken this summer.  May God give us the kind of men and women that will pick up the torch of truth an courageously “clean house!”</p>
<p>Remember:</p>
<p>The Lambs Follow the Sheep </p>
<p>‘Twas a sheep, not a lamb, that went astray<br />
In a parable Jesus told–<br />
A grown-up sheep that had gone astray<br />
From the ninety and nine in the fold.</p>
<p>The Lambs will follow the sheep. you know,<br />
Wherever the sheep will stray,<br />
If the sheep go wrong, it will not be long<br />
‘Till the Lambs are as wrong as they.</p>
<p>And so with the sheep we earnestly plead.<br />
For the sake of the lambs today–<br />
If the lambs are lost, what a terrible cost<br />
Some sheep will have to pay!</p>
<p>Author Unknown </p>
<p>And God will hold those “sheep” accountable in the very near future&#8211;and the rest of us accountable if we fail to do something about the situation!</p>
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		<title>By: BobRyan</title>
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		<dc:creator>BobRyan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Apr 2010 03:36:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Far be it from me to claim that any of these people might not be &quot;nice&quot; in person. My argument is not that they are not nice - but that they are butchering the text to pursue a distinctively non-Adventist agenda at all costs.

It is possible that they may all be sincere in their errors. But we need to give them some alone-time to figure their way out of that paper bag before standing them up in front of SDA students as if they will not just go ahead and lead our young adults down the same slippery slope they have chosen for themselves.

In Christ,

Bob</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Far be it from me to claim that any of these people might not be &#8220;nice&#8221; in person. My argument is not that they are not nice &#8211; but that they are butchering the text to pursue a distinctively non-Adventist agenda at all costs.</p>
<p>It is possible that they may all be sincere in their errors. But we need to give them some alone-time to figure their way out of that paper bag before standing them up in front of SDA students as if they will not just go ahead and lead our young adults down the same slippery slope they have chosen for themselves.</p>
<p>In Christ,</p>
<p>Bob</p>
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		<title>By: Shane Hilde</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shane Hilde</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Apr 2010 03:27:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I tried speaking with Greer through email, but his wife refused to let me communicate with him. She did all the writing.

Greer, I hear, is a really nice guy. But nice doesn&#039;t cut it when you&#039;re teaching theories contrary to your employer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I tried speaking with Greer through email, but his wife refused to let me communicate with him. She did all the writing.</p>
<p>Greer, I hear, is a really nice guy. But nice doesn&#8217;t cut it when you&#8217;re teaching theories contrary to your employer.</p>
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		<title>By: BobRyan</title>
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		<dc:creator>BobRyan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Apr 2010 03:23:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Greer butchered both context and content for John 1,  John 8 and then John 17 in his less than compelling response to the points raised there. One might choose to be lax with him for doing such a sloppy job with context and content given the stand-up fast-paced nature of the debate - but then when you recall that the entire POV he is arguing for is every bit as corrupt as his treatmet of John 8 and John 17, a pattern begins to emerge.

The bigger problem here is that unsuspecting SDA parents and students who did NOT watch this video before spending time and money to have students trained by Greer - are subjecting students to Greer&#039;s compromised POV when it comes to facts and truth.

But Greer could not have done this on his own. Someone had to hire him and someone had to choose to retain him &quot;at all costs&quot;.

in Christ,

Bob</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Greer butchered both context and content for John 1,  John 8 and then John 17 in his less than compelling response to the points raised there. One might choose to be lax with him for doing such a sloppy job with context and content given the stand-up fast-paced nature of the debate &#8211; but then when you recall that the entire POV he is arguing for is every bit as corrupt as his treatmet of John 8 and John 17, a pattern begins to emerge.</p>
<p>The bigger problem here is that unsuspecting SDA parents and students who did NOT watch this video before spending time and money to have students trained by Greer &#8211; are subjecting students to Greer&#8217;s compromised POV when it comes to facts and truth.</p>
<p>But Greer could not have done this on his own. Someone had to hire him and someone had to choose to retain him &#8220;at all costs&#8221;.</p>
<p>in Christ,</p>
<p>Bob</p>
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		<title>By: Shane Hilde</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shane Hilde</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Apr 2010 02:39:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is the type of Adventist professors we&#039;re hiring at LSU:

1. Rejects the historicity of Genesis 1-11
2. Rejects the divinity of Christ
3. Rejects the Spirit of Prophecy expressed in Ellen White

He&#039;s not even Christian much less Adventist.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is the type of Adventist professors we&#8217;re hiring at LSU:</p>
<p>1. Rejects the historicity of Genesis 1-11<br />
2. Rejects the divinity of Christ<br />
3. Rejects the Spirit of Prophecy expressed in Ellen White</p>
<p>He&#8217;s not even Christian much less Adventist.</p>
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