Comment on LSU’s PR Campaign: ‘Evolution is Not Promoted at LSU’ by Sean Pitman.
Sean, We have been over this before, and I believe you are wrong. Teaching evolution “as fact†when there are simply no “facts†to empirically support it IS LYING.
The LSU science professors are not teaching evolution as “fact”, but as the most likely story of origins as they see it. They truly believe this and are not deliberately misleading their students. Therefore, it is wrong of you to accuse them of lying. I agree with you that they are mistaken in their beliefs, but I do not agree with your labeling them as “liars” when they do not understand their error.
I simply wish you and Shane would allow those who have a different “take†on issues to state them, instead of editing, deleting, and censoring so much. I actually had more freedom to express my views at AT and Spectrum than I do here, even though they HATED what I said.
The problem with many of your posts is that they are unnecessarily inflammatory, personal, or pejorative. You often use ad hominem attacks in your posts which are either uncalled for, over the top, or which are simply irrelevant or distracting from the topic at hand. You do have some good ideas, but you really need to tone it down quite a bit in order to be more effective…
Sean Pitman
www.DetectingDesign.com
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LSU’s PR Campaign: ‘Evolution is Not Promoted at LSU’
@Geanna Dane:
So would it be okay to put these cartoons on a billboard over a major interstate?
What is wrong with a billboard advertising LSU as being on the cutting edge when it comes to teaching about and promoting belief in evolutionary “science”? After all, most universities wouldn’t think twice about such a promotional effort in support of mainstream “science”… the more prominent the better!
Why then would LSU be embarrassed to have this fact known by all?
Let’s just suppose someplace like Harvard started promoting the truth of Intelligent Design Theory or even Creationism in their science classrooms. Even if Harvard were to deny this, if there happened to be overwhelming evidence to the contrary, you don’t think this would hit every major newspaper in the world? – and even billboards? – perhaps even with a few cartoons I’m sure? ; )
Sean Pitman
www.DetectingDesign.com
LSU’s PR Campaign: ‘Evolution is Not Promoted at LSU’
@Ron Stone M.D:
It is not accurate to call someone a liar who doesn’t know that they are in error. I personally think that the LSU professors honestly believe what they are teaching regarding the “truth” of the Darwinian story of origins. Therefore, they are not “liars”. I believe that they are in error in what they believe to be true, but they are not deliberately teaching error or “lying”.
However, the professors are knowingly undermining the SDA Church for whom they work while on the dime of the Church. That, in my book, is a clear moral wrong. It is a form of stealing…
The LSU administrators and PR staff, on the other hand, know what is really being promoted as the truth at LSU. They know that their science professors believe in and actively promote long-age evolutionary ideas while discounting the SDA position on a literal creation week. Yet, these representatives of LSU are going around telling everyone that this is not the case; that everyone at LSU is in full support of the SDA Church and all of the Church’s fundamental doctrines. This, as they full well know, is a bold faced lie. There simply is no other word to describe what they are doing…
Why are the LSU representatives deliberately lying to us? Do we not have the right to know the truth as to what is really being taught to our young people? Why all this deception? Why not at least be open and honest with people what what you really stand for? – about what each one of your professors really believes and promotes? I just don’t get it. I don’t understand all this deliberate deception and I don’t understand why some people are getting angry with those who are striving to produce real openness, honesty, and transparency on this issue…
Sean Pitman
www.DetectingDesign.com
LSU’s PR Campaign: ‘Evolution is Not Promoted at LSU’
@Geanna Dane:
I am amazed by the extent to which “conservative†Adventists will justify their actions. Totally amazed.
I’m amazed at your suggestion that our own schools who are deliberately lying to us about what they are teaching our own children, contrary to the name on the school, should not be publicly called out on what they are doing in public – especially after having resisted many private attempts over many years to correct such blatant attacks against the very name the school supposedly represents…
Sean Pitman
www.DetectingDesign.com
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