I’m not about to listen to the recordings. I had …

Comment on LSU, Pacific Union Conference and North American Division Sued by Javier G..

I’m not about to listen to the recordings. I had the opportunity but decided it was completely unethical to do so. The recordings are of a private conversation that was inadvertently made without the intent of others listening. At Spectrum a while back several SDA lawyers were discussing the recordings when a former SDA pitched by saying he had the opportunity to listen and refused to because it was highly inappropriate, and asked his partners if they would, and they said no. It’s sad that non-SDA’s have higher ethical standards than SDA’s.

At Spectrum there is a healthy description and discussion of events at Banff where the GRI and various SDA scientists are presently meeting to discuss how origins should be taught at our universities. Some have suggested this website (Educate Truth) would be a good place for such a discussion but obviously it isn’t going to happen here. The Banff meetings have real scientists in the trenches who understand better than posters here the problems and subtleties associated with teaching origins. So far as I can tell no one who contributes to this website including Sean Pitman is at these meetings in large part because essentially no one here has any knowledge of substance to contribute.

Educate Truth and its fan club does little but stir the pot and whine that things don’t happen when in reality much has been going on where the rubber meets the road. If you want a realistic perspective on the issues, you’re at the wrong website.

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LSU, Pacific Union Conference and North American Division Sued

Holly Pham: You neglected to address my point that the bible-believing conservatives have far more support than the leftsided liberals and progressives in our SDA church.
How did you determine the number of supporters of Spectrum versus ET? And how did you determine the number of supporters of each website? Please explain your statistical analysis. Or did you just guess?

It’s Bible, spelled with a capital letter, and I don’t know where stats exist on numbers that call themselves conservatives (like you and others here), middle of the road (like me) or liberals (like some at Spectrum) within our church.

For comparing websites however the numbers are easy. Just look at the numbers next to the thumbs up/down (Educate Truth) and vote up/down (Spectrum). It’s elementary, my dear Holly.


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Holly Pham: Spectrum and AT see their masses getting smaller as a percentage of our worldwide church.

Compare the numbers of “likes” and “dislikes” between ET and Spectrum. Spectrum has close to 10-fold the number of readers (and content as well), many of whom contribute substantially to discussion. Bob, of course, will only highlight the very worst.

Obviously ET is a “little right tent” in large part because the same few people post the same repetitious mundane items again and again. Like 3SG 90-91, “reptiles to birds happy fiction”, “all they do is hate us”, “your faith is blind and useless” and “oh well free will being what it is”. It’s comical.


LSU, Pacific Union Conference and North American Division Sued
Oh, and let me pre-empt the accusations. No, I am not a theistic evolutionist who believes in “reptiles to birds happy fiction”.