24And the Lord’s servant must not quarrel; instead, he must be kind to everyone, able to teach, not resentful. 25Those who oppose him he must gently instruct, in the hope that God will grant them repentance leading them to a knowledge of the truth, 26and that they will come to their senses and escape from the trap of the devil, who has taken them captive to do his will.

I know that some students have been shaken by the information taught and faculty must be very careful about how they present the information. There is a great need for faculty to be able to demonstrate how they integrate commitment and faith with the seeming contradictions of their discipline. Nevertheless, if a student chooses to gain a collegiate education in biology, they NEED to understand and think through the data about evolution. Everyone will need to be convinced in his/her own mind about this issue. We should not kid ourselves, young people will get this information and decide on their own anyway. Rather than letting NOVA indoctrinate our young people, it is far better for these questions to be handled respectfully by faculty who acknowledge the dilemmas the data present, yet choose to be faithful and committed to the church. If they see things slightly different than you, then respectfully present your point of view, but don’t character assassinate them or call them “thieves”! If this approach cannot be done, then Biology should be withdrawn as a collegiate major and the entire structure of Adventist higher education will be at risk as other disagreements boil over.

Again, please stop demonizing our biology professors as “thieves”. This is patently false and is the classic tactic of the ad hominem fallacy (http://www.nizkor.org/features/fallacies/ad-hominem.html). Disagree respectfully all that you want. Present your data and arguments, but stop attributing scurrilous motives to those with whom you disagree.

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“La Sierra University is an integral part of the Church’s shared endeavor to educate our young people to think well and to believe well.” “And we affirm, as consistently declared by our university and by our Board, our strong belief in God the Creator and Redeemer, as revealed in our Church’s Statement of Fundamental Beliefs.” (Dr. Randal Wisbey, La Sierra University President, Open Letter of 28 May 2010, http://lasierra.edu/index.php?id=3183)

“Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only he who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. Matthew 7:21

If words were enough, President Wisbey’s would have the gold medal.
http://herrensbud.blogspot.com/2010/06/la-sierra-university-emergence-of.html

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Nanci, What’s NLP?No ‘Literal’ Propaganda?Nonsensical Liberal Philosophy?Non-biblical Liberal Platitudes?  

Nuero Linguistic Programming: a form of hypnotism that was going around the Oregon conference especially in the 80′s and 90′s.

Nuero-Linguistic Programming, or NLP. NLP is a form of hypnosis that can be done without the knowledge and consent of the subject, or victim. Operators that are trained can use techniques including the telling of boring stories to make the subject much less alert and susceptible to sub-conscience programming. Those who maintain a vibrant connection to Jesus and stay alert will not fall victim. There has been some talk that pastors or speakers may be able to do this from the pulpit.

These training systems known as Labs 1-1V, were going around the Oregon Conference of SDA’s back in the 1990’s or so. Conference leaders and pastors and other church workers were being trained in these systems and using them.

Here is one link that informs upon this subject. http://www.remnant-prophecy.com/topic-Library/Life-Death/You're-Growing-Sleepy.pdf

Here is another link to the book the Structure of Magic This shows the occult/witchcraft connection to NLP.
http://www.generalsemantics.org/gsb/articles/gsb46-johnson.pdf

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I’m in perfect agreement with you on this issue. We know from the Bible itself that some who believe lies, reject the Holy Spirit’s pleading for a certain time, and then God just gives them over to the lies they love.

2Th 2:10 “And with all delusion of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.”
2Th 2:11 “And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie.”
2Th 2:12 “That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.”

It certainty appears that these biology professors and those administrators who condone them at LSU have rejected truth and now believe lies.
Perhaps since the lies they believe really does appear to be truth to them, they can then justify the dishonesty involved in getting a paycheck that they do not deserve as they work at cross-purposes to the Adventist Church; their own employer and God’s true remnant prophetic movement. After all, to them, what’s a couple of lies anyway? It’s just one more day at the office.

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@Bill Sorensen: This is a prime example of the “NLP” garbage that our confeances are requiring our pastors to be preaching now !!  

Nanci, What’s NLP? No ‘Literal’ Propaganda? Nonsensical Liberal Philosophy? Non-biblical Liberal Platitudes?

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The basis of McLarty’s sermon is this…..“Did you understand what God said? Are you sure?”This is the same question Satan asked Eve in the garden. If someone can create doubt as to the clarity of the bible and the word of God, it is only a step to abandonment of any solid understandable communication from God to man.And this is exactly what John wants to do.

Exactly Bill, The basis of most liberal “theology” is doubting what God “really” said. Check it out for yourselves.

I’ve been an SDA over 40 years, and the deterioration of many pastoral sermons out here in California at least, is shocking. Mainly psychological theories, current cultural ideas, the latest “guru’s” philosophy, etc.

I’m proud to say I belong to an SDA Church that still preaches God’s Truth every Sabbath–Sacramento Central. Not just Doug Batchelor either–all the pastoral staff.

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As a member of the SDA church since 1977, I have seen many disturbing things happen, and have heard some shocking things said by supposed members of the church.However, the fact that evolution, in any form, is being taught at a church-supported institution of higher learning pretty much “takes the cake!”If my opinion carried any weight, I would call for an immediate “house-cleaning” at LSU, beginnig with the [edit] President, Ron Wisby and including all instructors guilty of teaching anything which is contrary to the Word of God.All the signs are being fulfilled and Christ’s coming is ‘at the doors.’God help those who have been responsible for corrupting the minds of our youth.  

Karen, I agree with you completely, including the {edit}! Will Wisbey and his buddies be fired? I have my doubts. Why?

From Ricardo Graham, (AR, June 10, 2010 p8,9) “The biology course, which has come under attack…did not really have the results we desired…I think there will be some adjustments,..”

The Board and its Chairman have no backbone to actually change anything, as can be seen here. Just “adjust” until we shut up. If the first “adjustment” does not work, we’ll try another, then another, ad infinitum, until eons of time have passed, and nothing still has been done.

Which is why I believe Graham should be fired along with the Bio profs and Wisbey, along with any others who have been involved in this ridiculous charade!

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