Hold it right there! That one is too preciously …

Comment on Elliot Sober: Just Don’t Call the Designer “God” by wesley kime.

Hold it right there! That one is too preciously ironic to be allowed to slip without ado into the blogmire – I mean Ken’s July 24 quote from Edwards that, in essence, “only atheistic doctors [not even theistic evolutionary doctors] are able to refuse to see disease as a random process and not as a curse from God.” The irony is that such “God’s curse” business would be directed to Dr. Pitman, of all people, of all doctors. He’s as highly trained and scientific, as in command of intricate and consummate knowledge of molecular anatomy, physiology, and pathology, and as smart as they come. Beyond that, he’s a graduate of the one medical school on the planet that was founded by an unashamedly Biblically inspired religious organization to unashamedly follow Christ’s example of expending, when He was here on earth, more time and power healing than preaching, or cursing, He having created mankind in the first place. And a medical school increasingly known for the quality of its research as guided by the certainty that human metabolism, and human pathology, and human immunology, human defenses against disease, if explored deeply enough, are intelligent, not random, research reported in the most respected — and peer-reviewed — medical journals. That’s the irony. Alas, one man’s irony is another man’s pothole.

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I’m reduced to being simply curious. Was there talk of rescinding Szostak’s Nobel? I propose another Nobel category: a prize for most honest scientist, and Szostak would be the first winner. Few other scientists would be eligible, particularly among evolutionary scientists, who collectively seem to have suffered a blindness mutation. He should be TIME’s Man of the Year.


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@george: At the risk of seeming to celebrate your leaving more avidly and perhaps graciously than your familiar presence and participation, I always feel disposed, when one of our agnostics finally grows weary of going in circles and drawing everybody else into the dreary orbit and decides to move on to other ontological badlands, to bow my head and recite the mizpah, a Biblical farewell peculiarly apt because it was recited at a departure reconciliation of two individuals one of whom had just conned the other in a peculiarly stressful way, whereupon he had reacted in an especially objectionable way. (Genesis 31:49). “The LORD watch between me and thee, when we are absent one from another.” I’d put it in cowtalk, ole pard, but somehow the KJV sounds more poetic. Hope to see you again, friend. Beware of all those tumbleweeds, which, if you squint your eyes, look strangely like busts of Plato rolling and tumbling over each other.
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