Comment on Elliot Sober: Just Don’t Call the Designer “God” by Roger Seheult.

@Ken:

Ken your point is invalid because your premise is invalid. You assume that the material world is not of God nor that he made the laws that govern the universe and that the only way God must work is through his violation of his own laws. This is not how God has been known to work. Only when no explanation by man can be contemplated is he forced to declare that it was an “Act of God”. This is not his exclusive manner of action.

“We don’t need to research your disease because we believe it’s the result of a curse from God, so your only treatment is repentance.” I wouldn’t expect this because of my God given brain to figure out the information around me and to come up with a solution that fits my problem. This is still God acting – through his laws.

God should not be the unwitting victim of His creation simply because His creation makes sense and works together in an organized manner. Indeed, the mere fact that it does work together should be ample evidence that it was created by a intelligent mind. The laws of gravity, acceleration, electricity didn’t have to be explained in terms of differential equations – but they are. Things make sense.

So, because our high-functioning God given minds can contemplate complex equations and rationalize them – God must not exist!?! How far from the truth.

Jer 31:35
This is what the LORD says,
he who appoints the sun
to shine by day,
who decrees the moon and stars
to shine by night,
who stirs up the sea
so that its waves roar—
the LORD Almighty is his name:

Clearly, it is the Lord who has set the laws of physics in motion. Clearly it is He that created the atom with its complexity.

“Practitioners in both fields exclude supernatural interventions from their explanations of the phenomena they investigate. ”

Wrong:

Examples:

1) Placebo
2) Accupuncture
3) Prayer
4) Hypnosis

the list goes on and on (all these things have been shown in some scientific endeavors to be effective in medical journals) – these are not from God – just things that we don’t understand yet. Why does God only have to exist in things we don’t understand.

“What medicine and evolution (and all the sciences) are saying is that direct intervention by God, or other supernatural beings, is assumed to be unnecessary in explaining the phenomena they investigate.”

Again – since when must God always and only work through supernatural things:

This is a bias. Example:

If God created the universe and set in motion the laws of it, lets say that he works by these laws 98% of the time and chooses, in certain situations, to work outside of this realm (2% of the time). By definition, we would only see that he worked in that 2% if we arbitrarily decided that God could not work if things were “following the laws”. In fact God was working all the time since he created the laws in the first place.

It is precisely the point that these laws are a god unto themselves for naturalists and atheists (people who worship the creation instead of the Creator). However, these laws have no power to create. And so the natural scientists do well to stick with explaining natural things using natural laws (Chemistry, physics, biochemistry) – but when you try to explain the Creative power of God (something that has no explanation) – you have to invoke a miracle in the form of evolution – this requires faith on their part.

Medicine and Evolution are very different: Medicine is the study of God’s most wonderful creation to help understand ways to ease disease, pain and suffering.

In a word: Medicine uses science to understand the most amazing miracle. Evolution needs a miracle to substantiate its science.

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