Comment on At La Sierra, Biology Faculty Affirms Importance of Teaching About Creation in Curriculum by Ervin Taylor.
Ken makes good points. However, being called a “Pot” might seem to be a little on the harsh side, but I think I see his point. [By the way, this would mean that I’m now a “Hissing Pot” on the EducateTruth(sic) site]. The problem might be the definition of “theistic evolution.” Other individuals have said my feeble suggestions as agreeing with that position. All that was ever suggested was that all Christians are creationists by definition, but the majority of Christians are, as a factual matter, not—repeat, not-—YECs or YLCs. All Adventist Christians are creationists by definition and two surveys have shown that a small majority of Adventist scientists at SDA college and university faculties are not—repeat, not—YECs or YLCs. There has never been, to my knowledge, a professional survey asking for the opinions of the average SDA member on that subject. I suspect that church authorities would not like to do that for fear of what they might find out.
Ken says he is an agnostic. Thus I assume he is not an atheist, meaning he is not sure because there is not being enough good evidence one way or the other. This seems to me to be a very reasonable position. I have always been attracted to the position of Christian agnosticism. (Many, many years ago, at PUC [for Ken, that’s Pacific Union College, an SDA school] I gave a talk with that title, as I recall, during a week of spiritual emphasis.) But Ken might see that as an untenable concept and contradictory by definition.
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At La Sierra, Biology Faculty Affirms Importance of Teaching About Creation in Curriculum
Between Ken and Wes, this thread on the EducateTruth(sic) site is turning into something like rational discourse. Now I’m sure that this characterization will have to be modified when [censored] posts his/her comments on this thread.
At La Sierra, Biology Faculty Affirms Importance of Teaching About Creation in Curriculum
Dr. Kime and Ken have come through yet again. Wes with “The Genesis 1 Tea Party.” And Ken with “Who is the Mad Hatter?” Both of these references are very appropriate since it seems to me that much of what is posted on EducateTruth(sic) comes directly out of the world of Alice in Wonderland.
At La Sierra, Biology Faculty Affirms Importance of Teaching About Creation in Curriculum
LSU Alumnus 1996 probably represents the majority of non-fundamentlist Adventists. May more of them speak up on all SDA web sites to beat back the “voluntarily ignorant” (love that phrase)!
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What does it take to be a true Seventh-day Adventist?
I just noticed Sean’s comment some time ago that “John’s “Revelation” has very little to do with the Roman Empire.”
Perhaps Sean was just trying to be funny or something. If he was serious, then I guess I will have to revise my assumption about his knowledge of the Bible. That was the entire context of the Book of Revelation. But I guess someone who rejects evolution must also have some problems with history.
La Sierra University Hires Another Darwinist
LSU should be congratulated for standing-up against the reactionary forces who wants to turn it into a Bible College. May LSU live long and prosper — as it is doing now with enrollments continuing to increase and new buildings going up.
What does it take to be a true Seventh-day Adventist?
It would appear that Dr. Pitman aspires to be the modern Adventist version of Girolamo Aleandro.
For those a little hazy about the history of the Reformation, Girolamo was the individual appointed as papal nuncio by the Pope to be the theological point person opposing Martin Luther and his theology at the Diet of Worms. (The Diet of Worms was an assembly of churchmen and political elites of the Holy Roman Empire in Germany which met in 1521, not a list of things to eat to reduce your weight. And Worms was not an item on the menu, it was a town).
Girolamo argued that Luther had no right to challenge the church’s theology. That theology had been settled for hundreds of years and had been agreed upon by scores of theologians. It was the truth.
Girolamo wrote the denunciations of Luther that were embodied in the Edict of Worms which declared Luther to be a heretic.
After attending the Diet of Worms, Girolamo went to Brussels and was instrumental at having two monks who had adhered to the teachings of Luther burned at the stake.
Sean, like Girolamo, appears to view his role is to root our heresy where ever he finds it in the Adventist Church.
Fortunately for the rest of us, Sean,
unlike Girolamo, has no power to carry out what he would to see happened to those he denounces as Adventist heretics.
Southern Adventist University opens Origins Exhibit
I’m sure that the vast majority of scientifically-informed Adventists will thank Dr.Kent for his every effective and rational approaches to the views expressed by Dr. Pitman and others on this misnamed web site. There is little that needs to be added. Dr. Kent has done a masterful job of exposing the misunderstandings of scientific data dealing with geology and evolutionary biology that has been offered by Dr. Pitman on this and his own web site.
Southern Adventist University opens Origins Exhibit
I see that Professor Kent has been casting pearls of logic and reasonableness before certain types of individuals on the educate truth (sic) web site again. I share with him my amazement at the new insights about inspiration revealed here.