At La Sierra, Biology Faculty Affirms Importance of Teaching About Creation in Curriculum
@Ervin Taylor:

LSU Alumnus 1996 probably represents the majority of non-fundamentlist Adventists. May more of them speak up on all SDA web sites to beat back the “voluntarily ignorant” (love that phrase)!

I suppose both of you are indeed fair representatives of those who do not accept more than a handful of the fundamental goals and ideals of the Seventh-day Adventist Church as an organization but still wish to call yourselves “Adventists” anyway for social/cultural reasons.

At least those whom you call the “voluntarily ignorant”[sic] are being consistent with the name of the organization they claim to support. Wouldn’t it be most ironic if those who consider themselves most brilliant turn out to be painfully wrong while those who are supposedly “stupid, ignorant, or insane” in your eyes turn out to be right after all?

At the very least why not be consistent with your name? Why do you want to be part of any organization that is officially so voluntarily ignorant [sic]? You really aren’t and don’t want to be SDAs in any meaningful sense of the word anyway – at least not when it comes to what SDAs supposedly believe as an organization. It seems like you want to change the SDA church into a church that doesn’t remotely resemble anything that SDAs have historically stood for as a unique entity. Rather, you would like to turn the SDA church into a church that is not readily distinguishable from many other non-denominational churches that already exist. In short, you seem to want to destroy all that is really unique and special about Adventism without producing anything else that doesn’t already exist. Or, do I have you two brilliant non-ignorant expert people all wrong?

Sean Pitman
www.DetectingDesign.com

At La Sierra, Biology Faculty Affirms Importance of Teaching About Creation in Curriculum
@Ervin Taylor:

Now that Sean has completely aligned himself with the party of the true believer EducateTruthers, there is no longer any question of his true intentions.

I don’t think I’ve ever been coy about my concerns regarding what has been going on at LSU for decades or my intentions to try to use all in my power to try to put an end to the undermining of the Adventist position on origins that has been taking place at LSU for far far too long.

Sean Pitman
www.DetectingDesign.com

At La Sierra, Biology Faculty Affirms Importance of Teaching About Creation in Curriculum
This Adventist Review article is very disturbing – especially where the leaders of our church seem to happily accept the proposal of LSU professors to continue to do what they’ve been doing all along.

The LSU science professors who signed the document are the very same ones who have been the most ardent in promoting mainstream evolutionary theories as the true story of origins while telling their students that the Biblical account is hopelessly out of touch with reality without the input of enormous amounts of incredibly blind faith.

Why then are Dan Jackson, Richardo Graham, and Larry Blackmer so excited about this proposal for LSU science professors to keep doing what they’ve always been doing? – promoting evolutionism as the only empirically-rational scientific conclusion on origins while Biblical creationism is presented as being completely out of touch with empirical reality as a faith-only relic of Adventism and outdated Christianity in general?

Back to square one we go…

Sean Pitman
www.DetectingDesign.com

Conrad Vine Continues to Attack Church Leadership
I think that there can be a reasonable combination of the best of modern medicine as well as the best of healthful living and natural remedies such as exercise, sunlight, vitamin D, “forest bathing”, good sleep, vegan or at least a vegetarian diet, etc…

Conrad Vine Continues to Attack Church Leadership
You opted not to get vaccinated during the pandemic, for whatever reason, but did not advise others to do the same. That’s fine. I think you probably increased your own risk a bit, but that’s far better than giving medical advice to others when you don’t know for sure that you’re right – especially for those who were at higher risk than you. It’s also good that you supported others who did choose to get vaccinated.

As far as SDA hospitals and organizations, I agree that there has been some drift from the ideal. I’m not happy that so many non-SDAs are hired to work in and to be leaders. I’m also disappointed that there isn’t a lot more emphasis, direction, and teaching with regard to healthful living. There are some who are doing this, like Dr. Roger Seheult. However, there does seem to be a lack of an organized or official emphasis on how to living healthful so as to avoid having to use so many medications for chronic conditions that are largely self-inflicted. Now, I do sympathize that quick fixed and pills are what most patients want. Most doesn’t want to give up their back health habits, so doctors often just give up and give their patients what they want. Still, this does not excuse the lack of effort along these lines in our hospitals and medical schools. Also, more should be done to spread the Gospel Message in our hospitals as well…

Conrad Vine Continues to Attack Church Leadership
Thank you for your kind words and support. I really appreciate it very much!

Conrad Vine Continues to Attack Church Leadership
I’m fine with open dialogue, but that includes presenting and at least understanding things from the GC’s perspective and why the significant majority of SDAs and GC delegates believe that the GC did the right thing during the pandemic and with the original 2015 statement on vaccines.

Conrad Vine Continues to Attack Church Leadership
So, it’s impossible to be a doctor who promotes the best of modern medicine as well as the best natural remedies and still be a follower of Jesus? Really? Not even Ellen White could be saved then…