@ Dr. Osborn It’s so good to hear from you! …

Comment on GC Votes to Revise SDA Fundamental #6 on Creation by Kirsten Nixon.

@ Dr. Osborn

It’s so good to hear from you! A friend of mine was browsing this blog and told me that you had posted, so I came to check it out. I hope things are going very well with your work at WASC.

I understand your aversion to these kinds of blogs; I used to write for Spectrum, and I just got so exhausted by the comments that did not reflect Christ that I had to give it up. Many times, it seemed like the disagreements were based mostly on misunderstandings and a sense of anonymity that led to offensive words. I hope everyone here and on Spectrum’s site can strive for Christ-like words, while at the same time giving each other the benefit of the doubt that misunderstandings occur. I would hope that for both you and Sean Pitman, of course.

I want to share my thoughts on the matter at hand. First of all, it is interesting that students at schools like Simpson are committed to a literal interpretation of the Bible, while being taught by professors that believe in macro evolution, some of which “professing” agnosticism. Understanding first-hand how students can come to revere their brilliant professors–soaking in nearly everything they say–it truly puzzles me how a student taught that evolution is the answer to our origins enigma would maintain the belief in a literal six-day creation. It would be fascinating to sit down with some students from Simpson and talk about these matters.

My stance on the matter is that we should be as knowledgeable as possible about evolution, but also about the science behind creationism. I took a class at River Plate College in Argentina entitled Science and Religion. It was taught by a geologist and a geneticist (Robert Biaggi was the principle professor; he studied at WWC and LL––do you know him?). We studied about evolution, but it was no secret that the scientists firmly believed that there were serious flaws in the evolutionary theory, and they gave many many reason why creationism makes more scientific sense. In short, it was the best class that I ever took in college; it’s kept me interested and reading about creation and evolution.

I know many of the science professors at PUC, and I find them to be very supportive of the Biblical creation account. However that is not to say that I have not had some negative experiences with a couple of other unnamed professors in other disciplines. During my freshman year, I was in a class taught by an individual that was Adventist, but clearly opposed to the literal nature of the Bible. By the end of the year, we had all thrown out most literal aspects of the Bible, and I was directly told that I could be a Christian without believing in Christ––and I even bought it!! Argentina saved me from that slippery slope, but basically every classmate of mine from that year either left PUC and Adventism prior to graduation, or has openly told me that they no longer believe in the Bible. The class was designed to make us think critically, but I found that as students––even collegiates––we are extremely weak in finding flaws in the teachings of our professors. I am in no way advocating that we don’t teach about evolution; we should know everything possible. But it is incredible how destructive one professor that does not believe in the integrity of the Bible can lead students away from even the Gospel.

I’m not making any judgement on what you believe in this matter. As a student who has witnessed first-hand nearly my entire class of about 20 students lose their belief in the God of the Bible due to one professor’s unbelief, I hope my testimony can provide a little more light on the matter of how we teach what we teach and why.

Again, it’s so good to hear from you! I wish both your wife and you the absolute best. God bless, and I hope to see you around sometime.

Sincerely,

Kirsten

Recent Comments by Kirsten Nixon

Panda’s Thumb: ‘SDAs are split over evolution’
@ Professor Kent, Eddie and others:

I have attended PUC and know that there are teachers who push evolution because I sat in their classrooms. I also know of a professor that was scolded by a superior for stating that evolution is not compatible with the Bible during a class devotional. I find it utterly ridiculous that people refuse to listen to students or plain evidence that is presented. While Dr. Ness seems to come off as a creationist often, he clearly showed himself to be a theistic evolutionist in this 40 minute, unedited class lecture. I even remember meeting him at college days before I attended PUC and having him tell both my mom and I that theistic evolution was a plausible explanation for how we exist. These beliefs are compatible with what I encountered in the honors program as well. I urge you to listen to the students; we are the ones that know what is going on. And by watching the video, you are able to see and hear what we are taught in classes.


Panda’s Thumb: ‘SDAs are split over evolution’
@Colin Maunder:

I would not be an sda {or even a Christian} if I believed the evidence was not in agreement with the Bible. As I have followed these discussions on this site I have been amazed at Sean’s calmness,and ability to answer the unrelenting tirades against him. I learn so much from educatetruth. Thank you guys

Yeah, that’s how I felt when I took a class from a guy named Roberto Biaggi in the SDA university in Argentina! He’s a geologist and studied at WWC and LLU and he’s an incredible creationist scientist! I was blown away by how much evidence truly does exist and I was left totally confused when I came back to PUC to find science professors who seemed totally ignorant to the things he knew–astonishing.


PUC responds
“As men see that they cannot maintain their position by the Scriptures, many determine to maintain it at all hazards, and with a malicious spirit they assail the character and motives of those who stand in defense of unpopular truth. It is the same policy which has been pursued in all ages.” Great Controversy pg. 458


PUC Professor: The Noachian Flood was just a local flood?
http://www.DetectingDesign.com

Here’s Sean website with evidence that is posted beneath his name every time her writes to anybody.


PUC Professor: The Noachian Flood was just a local flood?

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Thanks for the clarity Sean. I guess it was just hearsay or an assumption after seeing you and Asscherick on a 3ABN interview. However, as far as I see, many organization within the church definitely support the views of this website because they are none other than the views of the Seventh-day Adventist church expressed in the fundamental beliefs. Keep it up.