My first inclination on the topic of theistic evolution is …

Comment on The Rise of Theistic Evolutionism – The Salvation of Christianity? by Ron D Henderson.

My first inclination on the topic of theistic evolution is that it is a waste of time!

Our real enemy, and I agree with Dawkins, is evolution, period. Evolution is Satan’s simplistic counter to creation.

Theistic evolution is Satan’s Fifth Column within the Church of God to confuse the church and to retard the onward proclamation of the Gospel of salvation from sin and rebellion inherited from Adam and Eve in their original sin.

Our battle is with evolution. Theistic evolution is a misnomer and a no no! Briefly again (for others have made this point ad infinitum), to accept theistic evolution we would have the following: 1) Would be to disregard, disbelieve, Genesis (and all other passages in the Scriptures that speak of creation by God or Jesus)as literal; 2) to reject the redemptive response of God through Jesus to man’s sin and rebellion; 3) would be to make biblical Christianity just a club for deluded devotees, no different from all other non-Christian religious organizations; 4) to disparage the second coming of Christ to redeem his people who have turned from their sins and accepted his offer of forgiveness, pardon, and salvation; 5) to make the Scriptures a book of purely man’s speculations on God, man’s origins, and the purposes of God for sinful planet earth.

Theistic evolution’s attack on the biblical Christianity has the same goal as evolution: to undermine the literal interpretation of the Word of God and thus to undermine the truths of the Bible regarding man’s origin, Fall, redemption, and restoration.

And as such it is just as sinister and destruction of the biblical Christian’s belief and experience with the Creator. In my way of thinking, not just as a Pastor, but as a biblical Christian, theistic evolution is an ‘inside job’ or attack on the church to cause mayhem, discouragement, and unbelief! And this is a strategy of the devil. Let’s not fall for it, folks. God bless.

Ron D Henderson Also Commented

The Rise of Theistic Evolutionism – The Salvation of Christianity?
Wendell: Yes, it is possible for people to believe in things that contradict other beliefs they hold. However, what gives a man’s beliefs credence is the logic and consistency of his beliefs. If he realizes, or made to realize, that his beliefs are contradictory then he has to modify and sort out his beliefs. But that is not our problem, it’s his. However, we are to show (as we do here) that his beliefs cannot line up with scripture, and that he has not really given proper thought to the logical and coherent path of his beliefs. Our duty is to show that the incoherence of his belief system contradict and undermine the very foundation upon which we stand, the Bible. It all boils down to whether or not we accept the Word of God as foundational and our only rule of faith; and that all other thoughts and ideas must be judged by the sentiments of the Written Word, not the other way round as do evolutionists and theistic evolutionists.


The Rise of Theistic Evolutionism – The Salvation of Christianity?
Folks, theistic evolutionists cannot believe (should not believe) in the second coming of Christ. It’s a contradiction for them to do so.

The second coming according to the Bible, is only for those who taking the Bible literally have accepted the redemptive acts of God through Jesus; they have surrendered their sinful nature to the reforming and redeeming act of Jesus.

And because most of the present world will have rejected this redemptive act and refused to acknowledge Jesus as the Saviour of the world, and because these ‘rejectors’ of God’s salvation grace will seek to persecute and kill God’s faithful ones, Jesus will come to rescue them; he will come to destroy the wicked and at the same time remake the earth after dealing with Lucifer and all his cohorts.

Now all of this is a direct result of the Fall which Adam and Eve incurred in the Garden of Eden after God made them and warned them about Lucifer’s intentions.

If Adam and Eve theistically evolved, how and when did sin come about? And What is the nature of this ‘sin’ they committed? Why would Jesus have to come and die for their sin?

Did Lucifer really cause Adam and Eve to sin? Is Satan real? Why are they subject to earth only? For biblical Christians the answer to these questions are in the Bible; for theistic evolutionists and evolutionists these questions are unreal and fantasy.

No my friends, theistic evolutionists cannot believe in the biblical account of man and earth’s origin. So neither of them can believe in the Second Coming; Dawkins has already made that crystal clear.

We biblical Christians know what we believe (and I do not say this arrogantly).

Theistic evolutionists are only speculating and flirting with false science and evolutionists.

Let’s stay faithful to the Word, buoyed up as it were by the gift of prophecy that God has given to his church in Ellen white. God bless.


Recent Comments by Ron D Henderson

The ANN Highlights LSU’s Dr. Lee Grismer – An Evolutionary Biologist
Ken, I see you have missed my point. I never said that science cannot be empirical and that it must be biased. If you re-read what I said you will see that I am referring to ‘the interpretation of evidence.’ The issue is not science. As I said once, science is neutral. How science is explained is where the issue comes forward. We explain the evidences of science from our own worldview; especially do evolutionists try to hug the discipline as their sole jurisdiction. Those who do not agree with then are branded ‘ignorant,’ ‘religious,’ and so forth. I wish evidences were allowed to speak for themselves; but this is not permissible among the scientific community in our secular world. So while empirical evidence is fine in itself, sadly, the onlooker interprets it according to his worldview. Aren’t the great theories of Einstein being challenged today? I wonder why, Ken? Is it not true in our secular world, that when evidence points to God then that is religion and is unacceptable? but when it seems to point to the evolutionary model, then that is good science?!!


Beyond the Creation Story – Why the Controversy Matters
I see, Ken you are getting to know about our church; that is good. Let me say, Ken, I have never had any issue with Sean, barring that discussion on ‘reason.’ I do not know what Sean believes or teaches. I have never had any contact with him that I am aware of. I used to know a Pitman from the West Indies, I believe Grenada, years ago, do not know whether he’s the same person.

As regards prophecy, since you mentioned EGW and ‘worms of for food,’ there’s something known as ‘conditional’ prophecy where it will be fulfilled at the time delivered if all conditions are met.

For example, the case with Jonah and Nineveh in the Bible; God told him to tell those Ninevites that they will be destroyed in 40 days due to their wickedness. However, they repented and sought God’s mercy, so he accepted their repentance (that’s mercy) and postponed the destruction. The text brings this point.

There are other examples in the Bible of conditional prophecy. EGW’s reference you quoted falls in that category; had the brethren rallied to the cause and sought God as they should have done the prophecy would no doubt have been fulfilled.

The thing about the church, ours, is that we follow biblical teachings that as an organisation we have written down. When anyone strays from this then we take measures, as any other organisation, atheists, secular, or religious, does and is entitled to do. Our church does not morph or change to please anyone who might have some ‘bright’ ideas.

However, we do believe that, and have experienced, individuals arise and seek to change the structure and beliefs of the church; Desmond Ford is one you mentioned.

How do we know whether they are right or wrong, you ask? We test them by the biblical beliefs which the body of believers have agreed upon and have written down. Is it a matter of interpretation? Well, regardless, we subscribe to the interpretation that the body of believers as an organization hold in common. We believe that this is the biblical approach to take concerning ‘new light.’

Of course we also believe that ‘new light’ is in order and can be accepted by the organisation. However, we do that by having the appropriate groups study the issue, communicate with the rest of the organisation, and if they all agree, then we vote that practice or belief into our system of beliefs at the appropriate time when the church meets in plenary sessions.

We are also aware that along the road of any organisation apostasy, rebellion, or disenchantment does arise. We have experienced, and are experiencing this in the church.

But we believe that God will guide the church through to the end, so we encourage members to stay on board in spite of the rebellion or apostasy of others. Hope this sheds some further light for you.

Everyone is free to believe whatever he or she wishes. However, if you join a body of believers, and are baptised, you are bound to continue in the beliefs you have previously ascribed to.

You may have other thoughts, that’s fine; but if you teach these, and they are opposed to what the church believes and teaches, then you create an obstacle that in the end will destroy your membership if you persist in teaching and promoting those beliefs.

Again, this is the normal procedure for dealing with people who try to turn their church, their organisation, their club, or whatever entity, unto another path or direction. This procedure of dealing with such individuals is a biblical injunction.

Cheers my friend,

Ron.


Beyond the Creation Story – Why the Controversy Matters
Ken! I appreciate your point as always; and as always I have a counter to make. This situation in our church is an ongoing episode though out the annals of historical time. Men arise with erroneous views arise and seek to destabilize, subvert, and destroy the very organisation that gave them birth and future. It is not new. Protests are in order, as was Luther’s and the reformers. Your comparison with Camping is actually out of place, however. Certainly he cannot be likened to Behi, and others who have spoken out against the scientific organisation of which they are part. And certainly science will not die due to protests of others-be it good or bad. What you do not know, my friend, is that this church will survive, as will science, simply because God is in charge. The same God which to you at present is but a mist. We speak what we know and have experienced. Soon you will hopefully understand this point!

Ron.


Beyond the Creation Story – Why the Controversy Matters
Correction on the texts in my previous post. That should be Job 11:7 and Ps. 132:5 should be removed. Thankfully I could reason that one out!


The Adventist Accrediting Association is Still Reviewing LSU
Let us not forget that God is in charge of this work and of his church. And yes, we do suffer for our negligence, procrastination and compromise. But God is still in charge. If the men at the helm of his church on earth are delinquent and refuse to rock the boat, then they will be removed in His good time. In the mean while we must be faithful and do all in our power to correct the situation in our sphere of control, regardless of the ‘feelings’ of the ‘peace, peace’ lovers in the church.