Thank you Wendell, again. Another question I have for anyone

Comment on The Rise of Theistic Evolutionism – The Salvation of Christianity? by Holly Pham.

Thank you Wendell, again. Another question I have for anyone is according to the biblical record in Genesis, we have a detailed record of Man’s genetic history.

Where do Theistic evolutionists stop in the Genesis record. If Abraham was real, wasn’t his father, and his father, etc. all the way back to Adam as Genesis says?

Do Theistic evolutionists believe Adam was a real individual person, as is described in the Bible, or not? And if he wasn’t just created as Genesis tells us, how was he made?

Who was Adam’s “father” if he was not created by God as Genesis says? Some “missing link?” Part ape and part man?

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Wendell: Many have not thought out the implications of theistic evolution, but it boils down to this: if God could not create you by the method recorded in the Bible, in a few minutes, then there is no hope of resurrection because it takes more power to recreate and resurrect than it takes to create originally as God did in Genesis. That being the case, then why do those who claim to believe in theistic evolution continue to claim that they believe in God and claim to have hope in God for a future life? It is contradictory. They have no logical basis for believing it at all and should give up on Christianity altogether because their God is too small. He obviously has very little power.I do not know how to explain some of the scientific evidence which certainly does seem to support evolution, but that does not mean that no explanation that supports the Bible as creationists interpret it does not exist. We just do not yet know of it. I do think that when God explains some of these strange puzzles to us, the light will go on in our minds about how blind the scientists were, even if done in ignorance. I seem to recall that there is a verse in the Bible where God says that he’ll make the wisdom of the wise into foolishness, or something to that effect. I know that God is no liar. What he said he did, you can be sure he did it just as he said. If not, then he is a liar and not to be trusted.

Great post, Wendell, Do theistic evolutionists believe our change, at Christ’s Second Coming, will take millions of years? It seems to be a logical conclusion, since our creation took that long.

The Rise of Theistic Evolutionism – The Salvation of Christianity?

To be honest, do not think that the Conference where this pastor works will do anything about it, so I am not sure that sharing his name will accomplish anything.

Wendell, Whether or not the Conference officials do anything, shouldn’t you or someone notify them of this problem? If our young members are being taught unbiblical false doctrines, especially by an ordained SDA minister, shouldn’t someone speak up? Or should we all just keep quiet?

The Rise of Theistic Evolutionism – The Salvation of Christianity?
@Wendell, Thank you for your explanation. Do we have any theistic evolutionists who can answer my question? Anyone from Spectrum? Adventist Today? La Sierra?

Dr. Taylor? Dr. Geraty? Dr. Bradley?

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Shayne:
Why do accrediting bodies have the right to force religious universities to teach what they demand they teach? Is it not a violation of religious freedom to demand that evolution exist as the only exclusive worldview? Why have we given scientists the role of Papel See?

La Sierra is under no demand to teach “evolution as fact” as many other colleges and universities, SDA and non-SDA teach “about evolution” but do not teach it as factual. La Sierra WANTS to teach evolution as fact, and will do anything it can to keep on keeping on teaching it!

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David&#032Read: @Sean Pitman: There is certainly documentation somewhere of what the remainder of the bond funds was spent on. I imagine that the University was required by the bond trustee to document the capital projects the money was used on (because the funds could not be used for salaries or ordinary current operation expenses). So this is probably a public document that can be obtained through the freedom of information act.Also, I imagine that this information has been made available to the Board of Trustees and/or constituents, so if you have any contacts in those bodies, ask for the information.Keep digging, because you or Shane will find this information somewhere.

Dave, I agree with you completely. We need to have this investigated by somebody or some SDA group, preferably the GC. But, I do not think anyone there will step up to do it. So, we do need Shane, Sean, or someone.

La Sierra Univeristy Fires Dr. Lee Greer; Signs anti-Creation Bond

Charles: the

Charles, I agree with you. But, this type of reasoning is very common among liberals. This past Sabbath on LLBN, John Jones and Ivan Blazen tried to convince Carolyn Thompson that sin is “relative” meaning that something may be a sin to one person, but not to another.

She questioned them, and offered examples, and they stuck to this idea.

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ken:
That is why I remain open to scientific investigation of the concept of Intelligent Design. In fact, as many of you know, I have advocated for and agreed to support a Chair in Intelligent Design at any Adventist university. Strangely, not a single person has taken me up on the idea. Why?

Your agnostic friend
Ken

Ken, No “Chair of Intellegent Design” needs to be started, since our whole philosophy is of Intellegent Creationism. Nobody has taken you up on it because it is not needed. We need to have our SDA institutions supporting all of our beliefs, not just one “Chair”.

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