Paul “I do not think you accept the definition of …

Comment on Ted Wilson: No Room for Evolution as Truth in Adventist Schools by Gene Fortner.

Paul “I do not think you accept the definition of intelligent design that you have given.”

It is obvious you just don’t understand the Theory of Intelligent Design.

Try reviewing the literature and thinking again.

Theistic evolution is an oxymoron.

Monkey Girl was fiction, little in the way of objectivity.

I too have downloaded and read the entire Dover trial.

Miller creates a Strawman definition of irreducibly complexity

IMO that is a lie.

Dr. Kenneth R. Miller, an evolutionist and the plaintiff’s lead-expert biology witness during the trial. Dr. Miller testified that irreducible complexity is refuted if one can find any use for some sub-part of the total system:”Dr. Behe’s prediction is that the parts of any irreducibly complex system should have no useful function. Therefore, we ought to be able to take the bacterial flagellum, for example, break its parts down, and discover that none of the parts are good for anything except when we’re all assembled in a flagellum.”6

The definition of IC

Irreducible Complexity is defined by Behe as a single system which is composed of several well-matched, interacting parts that contribrute to the basic function, and where removal of any one of the parts causes the system to effectively cease functioning.

Miller implies that if a part of an irreducible system ( think mousetrap) could be used for something else, it wasn’t irreducibly complex.

Gene Fortner Also Commented

Ted Wilson: No Room for Evolution as Truth in Adventist Schools
why should not an understanding of evolution shed light on the reading of Genesis as most non-fundamentalist Chrsitians today suggest?

Definition of Evolution

When we talk about “evolution,” we don’t mean, “any kind of change.” Nor do we mean minor variations that result from natural selection. We use the term “evolution” to mean;

“The doctrine that unguided natural forces caused chemicals to combine in such a way that life resulted; and that all living things have descended from that common ancestral form of life.”

This not supported by any empirical evidence, only by pure speculation.

BTW,

The universal scientific laws of Biogenesis and Heredity complete refute Neo-Darwinism.

End of Discussion


Ted Wilson: No Room for Evolution as Truth in Adventist Schools
Paul,
“there is nothing but semantic difference between the DI definition that Gene has given us and theistic evolution. ”

What nonsense, your ignorance of Intelligent Design is astounding.

Introducing The College Student’s Back to School Guide to Intelligent Design

Casey Luskin September 25, 2009 3:07 PM | Permalink

There are a lot of false urban legends promoted in academia about intelligent design (ID). They often start with myths promoted by misinformed critiques in scientific journals, court rulings, or even talks by activists at scientific conferences. Unfortunately, it’s not uncommon for this misinformation to then be passed down to college students, who may know very little about ID and lack the resources to correct their professors’ misinformed and misplaced attacks on ID. Not anymore.

If you’re a college student, recently gone back to school and expecting to hear a lot of anti-ID views from your professors, we’re pleased to present this “Back to School Guide” for students as follows:

The College Student’s Back to School Guide to Intelligent Design

The guide contains suggestions for helpful pro-ID books, articles, and websites for students to read when investigating the issue. Additionally, it contains “Answers to Your Professor’s Most Common Misinformed Objections to Intelligent Design.” Nine answers are given to common but false arguments against ID like “Intelligent Design Proponents Don’t Conduct or Publish Scientific Research” or “Intelligent Design Is a Science Stopper” or “Intelligent Design Has Been Refuted by the Overwhelming Evidence for Neo-Darwinian Evolution.”

There are three easy tips to remember as a student with an anti-ID professor:

• Tip #1: Never opt out of learning evolution. In fact, learn about evolution every chance you get
• Tip #2: Think for yourself, think critically, and question assumptions.
• Tip #3: Proactively learn about credible scientific viewpoints that dissent from Darwinism on your own time, even if your classes censor those non-evolutionary viewpoints.
http://www.evolutionnews.org/2009/09/introducing_the_college_studen025841.html


Ted Wilson: No Room for Evolution as Truth in Adventist Schools
Paul

” All Jones decided was that ID is supernaturalism and shouldn’t be introduced now as part of science.”

Jones was wrong. he got duped by strawman arguments and his lack of education.

He prepared for the trial by watching “Inherit the Wind”.

LOL


Recent Comments by Gene Fortner

GC Delegates Vote to Tighten Language of Fundamental #6 on Creation
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GC Delegates Vote to Tighten Language of Fundamental #6 on Creation
Bill “How inane would it be to claim an apple tree is not an apple tree unless and until it has apples on it?”

Bill,

Comparing babies and apple trees is a bit more inane than comparing apples and oranges.

BTW,

“The ONLY DEFINITION FOR SIN that we have in the Bible is that it is the transgression of the law… IT CONDEMNS EVERY SIN, AND REQUIRES EVERY VIRTUE.” E.G. White, ST, March 3, 1890 par. 3.

If it is a sin to possess a fallen nature then there must be a law against it. Has God given a law forbidding anyone from being conceived with a fallen human nature? If there ever was a law that was impossible to keep, this would be it, for how could one choose not to violate it before one existed?!


Summary of 60th General Conference Session (2015)
Thanks Sean


GC Delegates Vote to Tighten Language of Fundamental #6 on Creation
Ethan,

IMHO,

No statement was necessary.

In fact I consider it thoughtless.

FB#6 should have absolutely no effect on their ability to support the world church and perform work faithfully and with integrity.


GC Delegates Vote to Tighten Language of Fundamental #6 on Creation
@Bill Sorensen:

Bill,

Sin is transgression of the law.

Where does it say being born is a sin?