Friend ken, I have continued to track this thread …

Comment on Supreme Court Decision on Church Employment Case by -Shining.

Friend ken, I have continued to track this thread tho it has been a while since I posted to it. Thank you for bringing this thread back to the main theme of this web site. A literal creation account is foundational to a literal Sabbath, literal salvation from a literal savior, literal ressurection at the literal return of the literal savior with our literal friends giving literal eternal life living in the literal new earth. Without its literal acceptance, the whole Bible become irrelevant.

As a youth I myself questioned the rightness and reasonableness of my faith in a Creator-God. My study led me into a deep acceptance of the reality of the literal explanation of Gen 1-11 because of literal evidence in the literal cosmos and earth and biosphere, fulfilled bible prophecy in literal history, simple literal probability and logistics, the literal ability to reason and love and be aware and communicate,and finally literal answers to my literal prayers.

I know that you openly are not sure about anything (agnostic) and I appreciate tho am saddened by your open position. God has given you enough room to doubt if you choose to. Anyone who understands what the word PROOF means will acknowledge that there is no proving how things happened in the past. Creation, true tho I believe it to be, cannot be proved. However there is quite a lot of evidence to support its rational acceptance. A.E. Wilder-Smith has some very reasonable comments, so do the scientists speaking on originstv, Walter Veith, and a number of others (all on YouTube).

Peace to you, -Shining

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Over the years I have stopped asking what is the minimum required to get into heaven. I find more joy and happiness in seeking to do everything I can to please God and promote His kingdom. I find pleasure in giving pleasure. And I find that His commandments are an awesome guide to great living, great health, great peace, great friendships. Do I do this without fail? No. But I do not call my seperation from God’s will, OK, acceptable, and certainly not praiseworthy.

I also have found that the God who went to Calvery rather than have robots with no individuality, at times deals differently with various ones based on that individuality. Sometimes it seems God is asking things of me that is not on the docket for others. That is ok. Should I worry about what is expected of others? should I refrain from learning any more than what others can handle? should I limit my degree of obedience and happiness to what the majority understands and is willing to reach for? Maybe it isnt even right for them. What I need to know is what is best for ME. I at times find myself asking, “Creator of the Universe, create in me a clean heart and renew a right spirit within me. God what do You want me to do? God, how can I help You? Come be with me and make this happen.” I still get sidetracked at times but I find Jesus who long ago began a good work in me, continues on in the process. PTL


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Bob, I agree. I enjoy a discussion so long as there is not name-calling and asignment of negative motives.


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@Ron: @Holly Pham: I am not opposing private thoughts but public teaching. I myself at one time watched some of what was taught in a seminar that was supposed to be supporting a Biblical view. It did not. I have myself read what some have stated in a published interview. It too was antithical to my understanding of what God has said


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@Professor Kent: You have asked many more than one question. And when one is answered, you ask another. No one here claims to have all knowledge about the present, let alone the past but many of the questions you ask, you could find the reasonable creationist responce on the web, if you, as you have several times stated, really want to know.

-Shining


Southern Adventist University opens Origins Exhibit
thanks bob, i found that bird track article worth saving to a word document. Old saying proved again, “A man convinced against his will is of the same opinion still.” This won’t help those who don’t want to consider creation viable. Each time one of their accusations is explained they just go looking for another. But the article will help those who are honestly considering all the options. Thanks again

-Shining


Southern Adventist University opens Origins Exhibit
@Professor Kent: I am comfortable with fossils after the flood. It makes a lot of sense. I will say that many things both creos and evos believed got changed after the succession of events on Mt. St. Hellens so that anything stated beyond the accounts of inspiration are always tentative in my mind.

-Shining


Southern Adventist University opens Origins Exhibit
@ Professor kent – I could go on but this by Natl Geographic should do for a finale. If one looks it is easy to find a plethora of evidence. In spite of evidece not yet found, evidence kept in private collections, evidence destroyed or tamered with, or evidence about about which inaccurate conclusions have been drawn, there is volumes of it there for the looking. In the past, there were plants and animals much bigger than what we see today. -Shining

“A team of amateur spelunkers has discovered caves filled with very well preserved fossils of giant flat-faced kangaroos, marsupial lions, wombats, Tasmanian tigers, and other megafauna that lived in Australia during the Pleistocene era, http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2002/08/0807_020731_TVmegafauna.html


Southern Adventist University opens Origins Exhibit
NEW DELHI: The largest non-carbonaceous plant fossils, 140 times bigger than today’s algae species, have been discovered in western Rajasthan (India), opening a new window for understanding evolution of life on earth.

http://articles.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/2009-10-05/science/28098229_1_plant-fossils-jodhpur-scientists