@Bill Sorensen, The thumbs down don’t bother me a bit. …

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@Bill Sorensen, The thumbs down don’t bother me a bit. You are right about the “deceiving the very elect” though. []

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David&#032Read:
@Bill Sorensen: Bill, I have now joined you in the ranks of the banned.They are not allowing me to post on any thread at AToday.For the time being, I am still allowed to post at Spectrum, which takes a broader view of permissible speech.

Dave, Consider it an HONOR to be banned from Spectrum or Adventist Today. Anyone who is banned by them certainly gave them too much TRUTH for them to handle, as you did over there!

Liberals and Progressives live by the term “tolerance” except when it comes to them tolerating what they do not want to hear.


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Phillip&#032Brantley:
Dr. Pitman, you (or some other editor) unfairly edited my last comment and the comment that I responded to, so I am forced to wipe the dust from my shoes and leave you and others to stew in anger and confusion.

Do you really mean this? Or will it be like many others who threatened to leave, but then constantly came back time after time, stayed a while, then later announce another departure?

BTW, Sean or Shane edit, delete, and censor many of my posts, and I don’t whine about it, stomp my feet, and (threaten to) leave.


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@Bill Sorensen, I agree with you completely. Ellen White would not only be booted off both Spectrum and AT, but probably from most other SDA websites, including this one!

People are just not used to someone speaking truthfully, no matter whose feelings it hurts. Mrs. White spoke out forcefully, and wasn’t afraid to name specific people whom she disagreed with.


Recent Comments by Holly Pham

NCSE Report: Adventist Education in the Midst of a Sea of Science

Shayne:
Why do accrediting bodies have the right to force religious universities to teach what they demand they teach? Is it not a violation of religious freedom to demand that evolution exist as the only exclusive worldview? Why have we given scientists the role of Papel See?

La Sierra is under no demand to teach “evolution as fact” as many other colleges and universities, SDA and non-SDA teach “about evolution” but do not teach it as factual. La Sierra WANTS to teach evolution as fact, and will do anything it can to keep on keeping on teaching it!


La Sierra Univeristy Fires Dr. Lee Greer; Signs anti-Creation Bond

David&#032Read: @Sean Pitman: There is certainly documentation somewhere of what the remainder of the bond funds was spent on. I imagine that the University was required by the bond trustee to document the capital projects the money was used on (because the funds could not be used for salaries or ordinary current operation expenses). So this is probably a public document that can be obtained through the freedom of information act.Also, I imagine that this information has been made available to the Board of Trustees and/or constituents, so if you have any contacts in those bodies, ask for the information.Keep digging, because you or Shane will find this information somewhere.

Dave, I agree with you completely. We need to have this investigated by somebody or some SDA group, preferably the GC. But, I do not think anyone there will step up to do it. So, we do need Shane, Sean, or someone.


La Sierra Univeristy Fires Dr. Lee Greer; Signs anti-Creation Bond

Charles: the

Charles, I agree with you. But, this type of reasoning is very common among liberals. This past Sabbath on LLBN, John Jones and Ivan Blazen tried to convince Carolyn Thompson that sin is “relative” meaning that something may be a sin to one person, but not to another.

She questioned them, and offered examples, and they stuck to this idea.


Dr. Ariel Roth’s Creation Lectures for Teachers

ken:
That is why I remain open to scientific investigation of the concept of Intelligent Design. In fact, as many of you know, I have advocated for and agreed to support a Chair in Intelligent Design at any Adventist university. Strangely, not a single person has taken me up on the idea. Why?

Your agnostic friend
Ken

Ken, No “Chair of Intellegent Design” needs to be started, since our whole philosophy is of Intellegent Creationism. Nobody has taken you up on it because it is not needed. We need to have our SDA institutions supporting all of our beliefs, not just one “Chair”.


Changing the Wording of Adventist Fundamental Belief #6 on Creation

Bill&#032Taylor:
By faith you believe in creation and by faith you believe in evolution!!What do you want to place your faith in God or Man?

You are completely correct. Who are we to believe? God? Man’s “wisdom?” Liberals and progressives believe in human wisdom over what God has said.

We see that at La Sierra, very prominently, and they are PROUD of it!