@Ron: “We used to be about following truth no matter …

Comment on La Sierra University Looking for New Biology Professor by Wesley Kime.

@Ron:

“We used to be about following truth no matter w[h]ere it comes from or w[h]ere it leads.”

Well said if ill used.

The key word is “truth.” Some Adventists are still following truth no matter where it comes from, even Genesis 1 and EGW, bacterial flagella and upturned geostrata, and no matter how much postAdventist angst, heart-felt or tongue-in-cheek, it engenders. And where that had to lead to was this site.

“Now we are only about defending dogma.” Tsk-tsk! But which dogma is LSU defending?

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@Ron: Again the famous Ron’s Rule, herewith edited to the core and compassionately, sorrowfully, hermeneutically extrapolated: Truth becomes dogma the instant enforced, because, by enforcement, truth becomes unprovable, because there is no one taking the other side to disprove it or even open the discussion, and thus truth is already disproved, which is a tautology because it’s an ineluctable given that there is no such thing as truth anyway, so who needs discussion to disprove anything, and anyway if disproven is no longer dogma but back to being truth, which is impossible and thus already enforced, so why all this discussion on this patently already opened thread, which discussion cannot be happening if no one is taking the other side, and if so how come so many Rons taking the other side (or angle or tangent), and if no discussion, it’s all a dogpile of dharma after all.


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